On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Steven Boscarine <steven.boscarine@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
On 04/20/2010 06:14 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
> It's not the same JAR, but it is the same API (subtly different ;-)
>

The contents are the same, correct?  There is no JBoss-specific magic in
an org.jboss.spec.javax.* jar, right?  The classes and interfaces are
otherwise identical, right?

Yes, identical. This is similar in spirit to what Geronimo has been doing for years.

http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/specs/

In fact, just about all of my past corporate projects referenced the geronimo specs for the very reason we are discussing in this thread...many were absent from central. Central got better for a while, now it's out of date again :(
 

>
>> On one hand, I prefer the javax.* because it is more conventional and in my opinion, more polished looking, especially for people who choose to run weld or Java EE outside of a JBoss container.
>>
> Agreed. However even if we decided to maintain a BOM for this, we couldn't have it 100% using javax. as some specs in EE6 are missing published Maven artifacts. So, the question becomes whether it is worth doing a split one?
>

Fully understood.  Sun/Oracle hasn't been good about pushing their APIs
to maven central.  It's been frustrating me and every other maven user
for many years now.

There are two problems here.

1. The spec APIs are not consistently pushed to the central repository (if at all)
2. The JARs contain stripped classes, which blow up test suites, as we have observed

Sonatype has been working on merging the java.net Maven repository into central. Here's the story as I know it. They have put a lot of effort into it and they haven't gotten much support. So this is a one-time important and won't address future publication needs. So while it gives us the JARs we need in the short term, we still need a long term strategy. 

Uh, and to think all of this over just needing to compile and app to use the platform. Frustrating for sure.

-Dan

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