Yep but this is on implementation level, the JBoss - weld integration sticks the WeldListener in all deployments through meta-data manipulation. Previously it just got the list of listeners and added it to the end of the list (i.e. not with a xml file). I tried putting it first but that didn't help so the question is, "is the ordering done at a later stage?" and "how can we get it first in all cases?" and "can we simulate a web-fragment etc so that the ordering is portable?"