Webapp-ear sounds a bit weird, perhaps app-ear and app-web instead? :-)

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 21:04, Wolfgang Knauf <wolfgang.knauf@gmx.de> wrote:
OK, so there are two votes (mine and Eduardo's) for "create a blank
archetype from scratch - no demo source included" and no vote for
"continue using the quickstart" approach.

Currently, I struggle with the archetype and will send a pull request in
the next few days.

Any objections against the name "wildfly-javaee-webapp-ear-archetype"
(which means: a new subdirectory in git)?

If this is done, the next step would be to create a
"wildfly-javaee-webapp-archetype". And then someone could clean up the
old archetypes.

I think about adding a small integration test to the web project which
shows how to create the @Deployment using ShrinkWrap? The test itself
might have only dummy code, just the creation of the EAR file is
relevant. This might be helpful to users.

Best regards


Am 18.03.19 um 09:33 schrieb Eduardo Martins:
> The archetype sources should actually be simpler to maintain, no need to “fix” the imported QS sources... I guess for most releases it would be to simply the effort to sync some dependency management versions for the generated parent pom, e.g. WildFly BOMs version.
> Wrt the html5-mobile archetype, I believe it is similar to the ones you were looking at, but pointing to an old QS that was removed at some point.
> —E
>> On 13 Mar 2019, at 19:14, Wolfgang Knauf <wolfgang.knauf@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Am 13.03.19 um 18:25 schrieb Eduardo Martins:
>>>> On 12 Mar 2019, at 19:12, Wolfgang Knauf <wolfgang.knauf@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi Eduardo,
>>>> Am 12.03.19 um 08:58 schrieb Eduardo Martins:
>>>>> Hi Wolfgang, the kitchensink QS truly depends on the QS parent pom (dependency management, plugins, etc.), which means that if we replace it with a “local” parent pom then, for each release, we need to sync manually such parents poms content… I don’t see any issue with using QS parent pom, it seems that those archetypes were designed to generate clones of specific quickstarts with just different Maven GAVs. Have you tried to install the SNAPSHOT versioned QS parent first (mvn install -N at QS repo root), or use a tag such as 16.0.0.Final, which parent was released to Maven, instead of pointing to QS master branch ?
>>>>> Honestly I’m not sure this kind of app archetype is of much interest as it is, mostly due to the app's complexity, probably would be more helpful almost “empty” apps, but if the idea is to have a QS clone tool then perhaps a single generic archetype for that would make more sense. I’m open to QS source changes needed to be friendly with such archetype :-)
>>>>> —E
>>>> I agree that the "wildfly-javaee7-webapp-ear-archetype" archetype is not really useful. But based on this archetype, an empty archetype "wildfly-javaee7-webapp-ear-blank-archetype" is generated, which consists of all necessary pom.xml files and some deployment descriptor stubs. And *this* archetype is the reason why I started working on it: it is a good starting point for a new JavaEE application which already defines all necessary components.
>>>> I am willing to maintain this archetype for the next few years and trying to release a version for each major WildFly version. As suggested I would add a static root pom.xml to the archetype github project which is independent of the quickstart files, as they are not "standalone". This main pom.xml has to be updated for each WildFly version, but all the other files still can be pulled from the "KitchensinkEar" quickstart.
>>> Then why get any sources from QS repo, having a proper do-nothing app project all locally sounds better to me, probably less effort needed on every release too.
>>> —E
>> So you prefer to create a blank archetype which has no build
>> dependencies, just containing the relevant pom.xml files and maybe some
>> required files (don't know if there are any)? And this archetype is
>> updated by someone (e.g. me) each time a new major release is done?
>> Same applies to the other archetype, "wildfly-javaee7-webapp-archetype”.
>> The wildfly-archetypes project contains two more archetypes
>> ("wildfly-html5-mobile-archetype", "wildfly-subsystem-archetype"), but I
>> did not even take a look at those.
>> Personally, I prefer the standalone approach, too. It means more work to
>> maintain it, but it is simpler ;-)
>> Please vote for any of those solutions ;-):
>> a) continue pulling from KitchensinkEAR quickstart ("blank" archetype
>> and archetype with a basic project)...
>> b) create standalone archetype (only "blank" archetype).
>> Best regards
>> Wolfgang
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