On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 5:46 PM, David Lloyd <david.lloyd@redhat.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM, James Perkins <jperkins@redhat.com> wrote:
> There will be a slight performance impact during boot. This can be greatly
> reduced if the caller calculation is disabled. This can be done in normal
> cases, but we likely can't make it the default.

I suspect we can safely disable caller calculation by default on boot,
as long as users have an easy way to turn it on.

Also I think we should consider some kind of grimy hack to bootstrap
the logging subsystem first, if it's present, otherwise immediately
fall back to properties-based config if it's absent.

I'm not sure what counts as first in this context, but fwiw if a logging subsystem is present during boot we always execute it's Stage.RUNTIME steps first before proceeding on to doing the parallel execution of the other subsystems. We could probably without too much trouble get a bit more grimy, e.g. to get the subsystem ops to run before a few others if they don't already. Beyond that I sense we wouldn't be talking grimy, we'd be talking horrible. :)

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