On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 9:26 AM Brian Stansberry <brian.stansberry@redhat.com> wrote:On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 5:54 PM James Perkins <jperkins@redhat.com> wrote:Since I've been one that keeps talking about this, it seems I should reply here as well :)In general we could, and really probably should, start with a known set of dependencies to upgrade. Otherwise we'll probably see A LOT of dependency upgrade PR's.Can we start by just doing this in dependabot.yml:ignore:- dependency-name: "*"
update-types: ["version-update:semver-major","version-update:semver-minor"]We could, yes. We will likely have a lot of upgrades come in that way. This might be okay, but my initial thought was to list specific dependencies we know to be upgradeable without a JIRA. I'm definitely up for being aggressive if we want though :)
So we limit things to just the micros.Dependabot will only produce 5 open PRs at a time, unless we specify a different number via dependabot.yml.* So we can process 5 at a time and even quickly close ones that will require more thought than we want to spend at that time. The dependency update report that's sent to this list every week will prevent any we ignore or close from falling into a crack.* Perhaps we should start with a smaller max number and increase it every day or so until we get to whatever our long-term target is. IOW, avoid an initial CI-hogging flood.The CI concerns are definitely valid. I hadn't considered that.
One thing to note too is that dependabot will create a branch in the repository. Anyone doing a fetch locally will get this new branch. Not really a huge deal, but something to keep in mind. Locally you might want to run git remote prune <your_remote> a little more often if you like to keep things clean :)Thanks for the tip!On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 10:33 AM Brian Stansberry <brian.stansberry@redhat.com> wrote:Occasionally we've thought about turning on dependabot for the main WildFly repo, and a couple current discussions (see [1] and [2]) relate to that, so it seems a good time to discuss further and perhaps take action.My main concern with dependabot is it doesn't integrate with JIRA. JIRA is really important to how we're able to keep a handle on a project as complex as WildFly. And I think it's important to track component upgrades in JIRA so our users can keep an eye on what we're providing. Particularly important in the world of ubiquitous CVE scanners.But James Perkins has pointed out that such JIRA tracking is kind of overkill for non-production dependencies (e.g. test and build deps) and I agree.So, how about we turn on dependabot and require a JIRA to be filed and linked to the PR if the proposed upgrade is production code dep? For non-production deps a JIRA would be optional.The other thing I care about a lot is being able to grep the git log for commits related to a JIRA. That would of course be lost for non-production upgrades with no JIRA. Oh well. Also though dependabot wouldn't put our JIRA in its commit messages. But for PRs where we file a JIRA we can require human edit of the dependabot PR title to reference the JIRA. That will result in the JIRA appearing in the log via the merge commit Github generates. That solves the git log use case adequately enough IMO.TBH I only grep for JIRA's if I have the JIRA I'm trying to find the commit for. Short of that, I pretty much just use git blame on the file to find out which commit changed a line. But everyone has their own workflow and I don't want to push mine on anyone :)_______________________________________________Thoughts?Best regards,Brian
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