Hello All,

I've talked about this many times, but I think it's really the time to tackle this now. I would like to propose that we remove the boot logging configuration file and collect log messages until the logging subsystem is activated.

This should solve several old JIRA's. Here are 5 of them without looking too hard :)

We also benefit from being able to make WildFly much easier to move between hosts. I see this as a benefit for both bare-metal and cloud. Currently, once booted the logging.properties is written with absolute paths which causes boot issues if the file system is changed.

This would also allow us to upgrade the JBoss Log Manager to the latest version which includes some nice enhancements. One of which is better coloring of log messages. We could even log a WildFly logo on boot :) More seriously though, it will keep WildFy in line with the version that other projects are using.

Really, overall, there are nothing but benefits in doing this. The only cons I see are the following;

Potentiel for OOME if all logging is enabled for all loggers.

This would be extremely rare I would think and may never even happen.

A system property would need to be used to define the lowest logging level wanted. However, this is better than requiring a logging.properties to control this IMO.

This change would not remove the ability to use a logging.properties if the user has chosen to remove the logging subsystem. In those cases, the logging.properties would still work. However, if the logging subsystem is also present it would override anything in the logging.properties configuration.

Any questions, opinions or comments are welcome. If this seems reasonable it seems like something we should get moving on ASAP.

James R. Perkins

JBoss by Red Hat