So the validation is within Apache CXF - is there an end result to this validation where you have access to everything you need where we could perform some additional steps?


On Thu, 31 May 2018 at 10:34 Jim Ma <ema@redhat.com> wrote:
The saml validation is now Apache CXF's SAML functionality. We can't port the CXF's security to rely on
our Elytron.  

On 05/31/2018 05:07 PM, Darran Lofthouse wrote:
It sounds to me then that the place to start is within the SAML validation, this is effectively an authentication step so should be ported over to an Elytron based authentication - the end result of the authentication would then be the required SecurityIdentity to propagate from container to container.


On Thu, 31 May 2018 at 03:57 Jim Ma <ema@redhat.com> wrote:
On 05/30/2018 09:47 PM, Darran Lofthouse wrote:
I am currently gathering together some information regarding how the JCA subsystem handles the requirement of populating a Subject for propagation into a resource adapter, however there is a general question about what is attempting to be achieved here.

Once an EJB is secured using WildFly Elytron the associated identity is not accessed as a Subject instead it is accessed a SecurityIdentity the current SecurityIdentity can always be retrieved by calling the current SecurityDomain: -


The SecurityIdentity has some similarity with the Subject in that amongst other things it also contains a collection of public credentials and a collection of private credentials: -


So I think the very first question is has the SecurityIdentity been correctly populated with any delegated credentials?  If not that is going to be a pre-requisite for any follow on steps regardless.

Then secondly what is it that is making use of this identity?  Why can't it be ported to make use of the Elytron authentication client APIs which amongst other things provide support for delegation from the current identity.

If we need to we can look at a conversion to a Subject but we are only doing that where it is really required.

  We don't have the SecurityIdentity populated, there is only principal and subject created by jbossws/CXF's saml validator.
  We need to convert the subject/principal to Elytron's SecurityIdentity or something else, then later on EJB subystem with Elytron
  security can retrieve this authenticated info without check it twice. So we'd like to know how can we convert a subject/principal
  to Elytron's SecurityIdentity and let Elytron know this is already authenticated and authorized.

Thanks,
Jim  



Regards,
Darran Lofthouse.


On Wed, 30 May 2018 at 10:27 Alessio Soldano <asoldano@redhat.com> wrote:
As suggested by Darran, I'm forwarding the message below to the list on behalf of Jim.
The classes Jim is referring to are at https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/tree/master/webservices/server-integration/src/main/java/org/jboss/as/webservices/security


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jim Ma <ema@redhat.com>
Date: Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:03 AM
Subject: Set an authorized identity to EltyronSecurity Context
To: Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse@redhat.com>
Cc: Alessio Soldano <asoldano@redhat.com>


Hi Darran,

We are helping look at a customer issue which requires propagate the authenticated subject from webservice subsystem to

ejb subystem. With old security domain , we can do this with creating a subject :

    @Override
    public void pushSubjectContext(final Subject subject, final Principal principal, final Object credential) {
        AccessController.doPrivileged(new PrivilegedAction<Void>() {

            public Void run() {
                SecurityContext securityContext = SecurityContextAssociation.getSecurityContext();
                if (securityContext == null) {
                    securityContext = createSecurityContext(getSecurityDomain());
setSecurityContextOnAssociation(securityContext);
                }
securityContext.getUtil().createSubjectInfo(principal, credential, subject);
                return null;
            }
        });
    }


After Elytron,  what is the equivalent thing to do this  then ejb can retrieve this security without check this twice ?

Thanks,

Jim




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