Guys chill about the shading :)  That was only ever mentioned as a preference over the original suggestion to copy large number of classes from Javassist into Hibernate source.  I simply said that if we are copying these classes from Javassist that shading would be a better option for achieving that.  Neither of those are really good options, but forced to choose between the 2 I'd chose shading.

I think we all agree that (if possible) Hibernate not using using Javassist at all beyond actually generating the proxy and/or enhancing would be the best option.  So if this is possible lets go that route.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:17 PM Carlo de Wolf <cdewolf@redhat.com> wrote:
Looks to me like Hibernate is exposing bad proxies to the user.

Would it not be possible to use a custom class loader at the point where
the proxy is defined?
Than you could use one that takes the version of javassist that
Hibernate requires and delegates everything else to the deployment class
loader.

I don't like to see any sort of shading as this means the full
maintenance burden of those classes are carried over into Hibernate.

Carlo

On 02/18/2016 12:11 PM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
> It seems we're discussing this issue in multiple places,
> so to let you all know I'll repeat it hare:
> I think shading is a really really bad idea :)
>
> Could we try to have the enhanced entities to not need Javassist in in
> their *direct* classloader; we can still have a normal Javassist as a
> module dependency of Hibernate?
> That would require to just make sure the generated bytecode doesn't
> directly refer to Javassist types but uses an indirection controlled
> by Hibernate code.. which in turn can use Javassist or even
> alternatives in future, if we'd like to experiment.
>
> I'm not familiar enough with Javassist to know if that's an option
> as-is but we can either improve Javassist to allow such a thing or use
> some alternatives, like Gunnar and Hardy also suggested on the
> hibernate-dev mailing list.
>
> To summarize, I agree with Stuart and would hope that Scott's branch
> can be improved by minimizing the amount of Javassist code which
> actually needs to be copied by using some simple delegation to
> Hibernte types, which in turn can use a private, non-shaded Javassist
> taking advantage of the isolation provided by JBoss Modules.
>
> --Sanne
>
>
>
> On 12 February 2016 at 03:19, Scott Marlow <smarlow@redhat.com> wrote:
>> What if Javassist packaged these same (proxy/runtime) classes in a
>> separate javassist-runtime jar and we shaded only the proxy/runtime
>> classes?  That way we only repackage the same classes that we included
>> for this hack test (e.g.
>> org.hibernate.bytecode.internal.javassist.proxy.*).
>>
>> Early testing results of the hack test look good
>> (https://gist.github.com/scottmarlow/ad878968c5a7c6fbbfb7).
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 02/11/2016 09:04 PM, Stuart Douglas wrote:
>>> It depends if you are going to shade all the javassist classes or just
>>> the "javassist.util.proxy" package (not sure if this is actually
>>> possible with the shade plugin).
>>>
>>> The main advantage is that you can upgrade javassist to get fixes to
>>> issues that affect bytecode generation. So if JDK9 comes out with new
>>> bytecodes that the current version of Javassist does not understand then
>>> upgrading javassist will allow the older version of hibernate to work
>>> with classes compiled against the newer JDK version. If all of javassist
>>> is shaded into hibernate then that version of hibernate will never work
>>> with the newer bytecodes.
>>>
>>> I think this is less of an issue if you are still publishing the
>>> non-Javassist shaded hibernate as well as a shaded version, but if the
>>> only published artifact has javassist shaded in then it may limit
>>> forward compatibility.
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 at 12:53 Steve Ebersole <steve@hibernate.org
>>> <mailto:steve@hibernate.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      Ugh.  That is an awful lot of classes copied over.  What exactly was
>>>      the benefit of this over shading again?  I mean both case lose the
>>>      ability to simply drop in fixes from upstream Javassist.  So what
>>>      does this "clone" approach gain versus shadowing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:13 PM Scott Marlow <smarlow@redhat.com
>>>      <mailto:smarlow@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>           >>
>>>           >>      On 02/11/2016 03:02 PM, Stuart Douglas wrote:
>>>           >>       > Have you considered a 3rd alternative, which is to
>>>          use a custom
>>>           >>       > ProxyFactory instead of javassists built in one?
>>>           >>       >
>>>           >>       > AFAIK the main issue is that javassist proxies
>>>          require access to the
>>>           >>       > 'javassist.util.proxy.MethodHandler|RuntimeSupport'
>>>          classes. You
>>>           >>      could
>>>           >>       > create a similar org.hibernate interface, and a
>>>          proxy factory
>>>           >>      that uses
>>>           >>       > this method handler instead.
>>>           >>       >
>>>           >>       > Basically you just copy the code from
>>>          javassist.util.proxy into
>>>           >>       > hibernate. This is a relatively small amount of
>>>          code, so it
>>>           >>      should not
>>>           >>       > really add any maintenance burden.
>>>           >>
>>>           >>      We talked about this as well via [1].  I understand the
>>>          concept but have
>>>           >>      not tried doing this.  I like this approach as well, if
>>>          it works.  One
>>>           >>      of the cons with cloning that Steve Ebersole pointed
>>>          out (see response
>>>           >>      on Feb-03-2016 9:01am), is that that users lose the
>>>          ability to drop a
>>>           >>      different version of Javassist in (since we maintain
>>>          our own cloned copy
>>>           >>      of the Javassist proxy/runtime code).
>>>           >>
>>>           >>
>>>           >> The proxy code is a relatively small part of javassist, so
>>>          unless a bug
>>>           >> is in the proxy code itself this should not be that big a deal.
>>>           >
>>>           > Thanks for the encouragement to go down this path.  :)
>>>           >
>>>
>>>          Started a hack attempt at the clone via
>>>          https://github.com/scottmarlow/hibernate-orm/tree/javassistproxy.
>>>          Seems
>>>          to pass the Hibernate ORM unit tests.
>>>
>>>          Scott
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