On 7/10/13 6:26 AM, Heiko W.Rupp wrote: The issue there is whether port 9999 is even open. Jason has commented he wants to eliminate it by default for WF 8. I'm personally just so-so about that idea, but can't really make a good argument against it.[1] A user can turn 9999 back on though if desired; the capability isn't being removed. If 9999 is open an older CLI will have no problem dealing with WF 8. [1] I see this as kind of like ripping off a band-aid. At some point external forces are going to force us toward using a minimal-port-count default config. So if the band-aid is going to eventual come all the way off, best to hurry up and get it over with. -- Brian Stansberry Principal Software Engineer JBoss by Red Hat