[aerogear-dev] [jdf-dev] 20 minute JBDS Demo with OpenShift Enterprise/OnPremise

Douglas Campos qmx at qmx.me
Thu Nov 15 17:57:39 EST 2012 

released

On Nov 15, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Douglas Campos wrote:

> Staged:
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> https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/content/repositories/jboss_releases_staging_profile-082/
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> Can you test before we release it please?
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> On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Douglas Campos wrote:
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>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>> Sorry guys but unfortunately, org.jboss.aerogear.archetypes:jboss-html5-mobile-archetype:1.0.0.M6b is still broken. It fixes the arq-jbossas-remote profile issue but it still doesn't build with -Denterprise=true
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>>> As I said on IRC yesterday : 
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>>> (15:38:43) fbricon: yeah so, if it really really works, with -Denterprise=true and/or active arquillian profiles, burr would probably be happy if you guys could release ASAP 
>>> (15:40:28) qmx: fbricon: lholmquist is looking into it already
>>> (15:40:42) qmx: fbricon: we'll keep you guys posted
>>> (15:42:09) fbricon: qmx: lholmquist: once you guys are ready, stage your archetype, clone the stacks.yml, open JIRA similar to JBIDE-13059
>>> (15:42:09) jbossbot: jira [JBIDE-13059] test the RichFaces Kitchensink archetype upgrade [Open (Unresolved) Component Upgrade, Major, Len DiMaggio] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-13059
>>> 
>>> So you should really use nexus' staging area to test the archetypes before doing the actual release.
>> That's actually my fault, we're working on fixing it right now.
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>> TL;DR - I've missed one important step on our pre-release testing process, and b0rked that release **sighs**
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>> Corrective actions are already taken for this to not happen again.
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>> qmx--
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>>> Fred
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>>> Le 14/11/2012 20:12, Douglas Campos a écrit :
>>>> pushed to nexus, now we just need to wait it to sync to central
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>>>> On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Pete Muir wrote:
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>>>>> Great, just tell Rafael any updates you need on our end.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:59, Douglas Campos wrote:
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete, I'm cranking the release wheel today to fix this :)
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>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Pete Muir wrote:
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>>>>>>> On 13 Nov 2012, at 21:38, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Damn, the project still fails to build when you choose an enterprise 
>>>>>>>> server. The archetype is really borked :-(
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For your demo, either :
>>>>>>>> - you stick with the community bits, it builds normally
>>>>>>>> - the JDF team rollbacks the archetype to version M5, so you can play 
>>>>>>>> with both community & enterprise versions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You mean in stacks? If Aerogear team agrees, then yes we can do this today.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - the Aerogear team releases a working M7 version *now* and the JDF 
>>>>>>>> team updates the stacks.yml
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Fred Bricon
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 22:28:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you - I will be able to test late tonight or tomorrow morning.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> JBDS6 does not run on my mac so I have to get back to my Windows machine to test.
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>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> As a temporary workaround, I disabled the arq-jbossas-remote profile on project creation . Created html5 project now builds OOTB... until you manually activate that profile.
>>>>>>>>>> Please refresh the project examples section in JBoss Central or restart your workspace.
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>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 18:41:32, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with the kids for the next 3hrs. After that, it'll take me 10 min to get it fixed.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 16:05:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> How quickly could this get fixed for me?  I have a demo this Thursday but currently unable to use JBDS6 due to this one bug.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There may be other bugs behind this one - JBDS6 is not the most "stable" but the HTML5 archetype is a show-stopper for me right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It fails for AS7 and EAP6 - and I won't be able to "stop the recording", fix the problem and restart the recording.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 15:22:02, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that a server-side fix? Or something that requires a new build/update?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Server side :-)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 17:38:38, Max Rydahl Andersen a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Fred/Snjezana,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burr pointed me to JBIDE-12987 which indicates the html5 archetype currently deployed in JBDS is broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit happens - but I Would like to be sure to understand where the culprit is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did this issue happen because:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A) we added an archetype without testing it to projectexamples.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B) the jdf-stack side is referring to a broken html5 archetype ?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Actually the archetype referenced in stacks.yml is broken when you activate the arq-jbossas-remote profile and you're in enterprise mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The profile activation is done in projectexample.xm, which means we can decide to, temporarily, not activate that profile when creating the project. All we need is updating that example descriptor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'd turn the profile back on once a fixed archetype is referenced in stacks
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...in both cases we need to improve our reaction/QA work on this (we as in jboss wide - not just us from tools)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before I hunt down the rightful owner could you enlighten me on wether its A or B from above ? (and if you got other info why it stopped working and suggestion to avoid it would be great)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /max
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately I am too busy multi-tasking to really nail this done.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HTML5 archetype on JBoss Central in JBDS6 is broken which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty critical to my demos as well.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-12987
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:21 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2012 04:24 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I seem to get a number of "would you like to wait" messages.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so you get these when the wizard reports it's waiting for the app to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become ready? if yes, then this is utterly weird. Applications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should follow the naming scheme:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you put openshift.redhat.com to your hosts file, then resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your apps should not get affected. Can you provide any further
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This seems to not be working for me
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are the symptoms?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could alternatively run a liveCD in localhost and have some more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funky hosts entry. The drawback is that the default liveCD does no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dynamic DNS-update so you'd have to add you app-namees into hosts,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - for now I will simply try to get JBDS6 to work with OpenShift
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if that acts up, fall back to JBDS5 + OpenShift Hosted - and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully the audience won't "see" it. :-)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pre-recorded demo/webinar and I am not sure if there is
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to script, test and record a 20 minute demo of JBDS (ideally
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) My plan is to use one of the hosted versions of OpenShift like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openshift.redhat.com or int.openshift.redhat.com and perhaps play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some games with the hosts file on my Windows machine - do make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look like " openshift.mycompany.com " or something like that, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you think - might that work?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added "54.243.111.12 openshift.local" to my hosts file and things
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a- Using the HTML5 archetype for JBoss Central
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c- Might even consider making an edit to the screen to so the viewer
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d- Assuming my account is already pre-established, will use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShift Wizard on JBoss Central to push up my app - I will need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to talk about while waiting - I will use a pre-establised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account because OSE has not yet figured out how they will enlist new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers - it won't be like the current self-provisioning model
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g- I would love to show "auto-scaling" but I am not sure how to make
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