[aerogear-dev] AeroGear Unified Push - Abstraction layer for "push enabled apps" (was: Re: [AG Push] BASIC (and INITAL) use cases of the Unified Push Server)
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Fri Mar 15 08:17:25 EDT 2013
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>wrote:
> Sebi,
>
> I don't like that the Unified Push manager is the central entry point for:
> -query/finding
> -sending
> -registration
>
+1 - The "native" push service should be simple and separate from some of
these functions.
>
> However, I like the concept (name) of registration - let me rename my
> ```UnifiedPushManager```. It will be called ```PushApplicationRegistry```;
>
+1
>
> I like the concept of the```ApplicationQuery```, but that's IMO a layer on
> top the pure send. At the end of the day, for the plain message delivery,
> it does not matter why a token/device has been chosen. It only matters that
> it was chosen, and it is about to receive a message.
>
+1
>
> The matching APIs - for now - are just pure model abstractions. However,
> having something like the `ApplicationQuery` in mind is not bad - thanks
> for the feedback
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great Job,
>>>>> see my comments inline.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <
>>>>> matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As discussed on the earlier theard, we have some raw APIs... Below a
>>>>>> little summary:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a UnifiedPushManager(.java) defined, which is basically a
>>>>>> registry for "push enabled" apps (PushApplication.java). Such a
>>>>>> PushApplication is a logical construct on the backend which is
>>>>>> allowed/enabled to send notifications to mobile clients. One example could
>>>>>> be the "Twitter Backend" (e.g. for push notification on direct messages).
>>>>>>
>>>>> As you said the manager is here more a registry than a manager in the
>>>>> current state, maybe we should have a *PushApplicationRegistry*interface which has as only responsibility to hold the register state,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you gist ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Take a look at my fork
>>> https://github.com/sebastienblanc/ag-unified-push-api/tree/registry ;)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the implementation of the registry will connect to the chosen
>>>>> persistence unit (JPA/Mongo/Oracle ...).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure I really want to that - now :) I am (for first iteration) fine
>>>> to have something running, instead of being that flexible and be able to go
>>>> with any existing "data source" :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, for sure, for the first iteration we will provide a default
>>> implementation.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This way we could have a concrete implementation of the *
>>>>> UnifiedPushManager* than can be used by different backend/customers
>>>>> (think DRY) , they just have to inject the needed *
>>>>> PushApplicationRegistry* implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what exactly you mean - perhaps a gist / pseudo code is
>>>> helpful here too ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Again, my fork should help you understanding
>>> https://github.com/sebastienblanc/ag-unified-push-api/tree/registry but
>>> basically, it is the same as your code except I apply the delegate pattern.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now each of the PushApplication can have a few mobile applications,
>>>>>> that receive those push messages (e.g. the offical Twitter iOS client and
>>>>>> the offical Twitter Android client). These "mobile apps" are represented -
>>>>>> on the server - with the MobileApplication.java class. Usually there
>>>>>> is only one iOS app and one Android... *BUT* imagine the case of a
>>>>>> "paid/premium app" versus a free app (e.g. something like TwitterPro-iOS
>>>>>> and Twitter-free-iOS... *NOTE*: there is NOTHING like that, I just
>>>>>> made these two apps up, to explain the concept).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course there are several installations of the iOS(and Android...)
>>>>>> app. Each installation is represented with the
>>>>>> MobileApplicationInstance.java class. Each installation is
>>>>>> registered by a "device registration service": The actual app on the device
>>>>>> submits its token/regId (and some other infos) to a HTTP endpoint....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now the UnifiedPushManager(.java) is the central API to *register* PushApps
>>>>>> and their mobile views, including (device)registration of installations (->
>>>>>> MobileApplication and MobileApplicationInstance).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any backend app, can now use the *Sender API* to actually send the
>>>>>> message to these different devices/appications, from the
>>>>>> UnifiedPushManager, assuming they have permission :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A simple example is here (java code for registration AND sending);
>>>>>> Note it's a Unit test.......:
>>>>>> https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/UnifiedPushManagerTest.java#L41-L81
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the *Sender* interface should be an attribute of the *
>>>>> PushManager*, the customer can set his *Sender* impl
>>>>> (pushManager.setSender(...) ) and the UnifiedManager act as a facade for
>>>>> the "sending" actions.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hrm - you really think folks will write their own "Senders"? I think...
>>>> if they want to add support for "Windows Mobile", they just have to extend
>>>> the abstract MobileApplicationImpl and implement it's send() to talk to the
>>>> Windows Push infrastrucuture
>>>>
>>>
>>> Again, we will provide a default sender implementation. But I seee
>>> indedd issues, having a single senders for different platforms , hum, let
>>> me think about this ;)
>>>
>>
>>
>> the Sender() is an aggregate of the different mobile Application's
>> "send()" - it will enqueue the message for the different platforms
>>
>>
>> thanks for the feedback - will check ur fork
>>
>>
>> -M
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> PERHAPS... just using interfaces was confusing - there will be
>>>> concrete classes (first impl is in the TEST project (see other thread)),
>>>> but the interfaces are a highlevel view of the "domain model"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://gist.github.com/matzew/73d478a42c093e21a6b9#so-far-so-good---but-why-this-abstraction->So
>>>>>> far, so good - but why this abstraction ????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Goal*: We want that any (JBoss/AeroGear powered) mobile
>>>>>> application, that is backed by JBoss technology, is able to easily work
>>>>>> with push messages. For a JBoss "backend application" it should be as
>>>>>> simple as possible, to send messages to its different mobile clients
>>>>>> <https://gist.github.com/matzew/73d478a42c093e21a6b9#some-scenarios>Some
>>>>>> Scenarios
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - MyWarehouseInc-backend can send messages to different
>>>>>> "customer" groups (e.g. discounts for only iOS (or only Android) users).
>>>>>> - MyInsuranceCorp-backend can send important "info messages" to
>>>>>> diffenrent variants of its mobile Applications (e.g. to the
>>>>>> MyInsuranceCustomer-APP (regardless of the OS) AND to the app for their own
>>>>>> agents (MyInsuranceAgent-APP))
>>>>>> - MyPublishing-Company-backend sends updates to all of its apps
>>>>>> (free and premium - regardless of the mobile OS). Advanced content is only
>>>>>> push to the paying customers...
>>>>>> - A company has different backends (small apps for different
>>>>>> tasks) - and these different backends could be able to reach all of the
>>>>>> company's mobile apps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So... the Sender somewhat acts as a broker (for accessable apps on
>>>>>> the 'registry' UnifiedPushManager)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we should define some kind of "Application" Collection, as
>>>>> smart/specific Java Collection implementation to be able to create easily
>>>>> groups of apps etc .. just a rough idea that needs to be cleaned up ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something like that would be neat, for more advanced queries /
>>>> selection etc
>>>>
>>>
>>> We could have a (very) simple query language specific for Push Apps,
>>> like hibernate, we could query by example. In my fork you will see an
>>> extremely basic Query object ...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>>> -M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW... none!!!!!!! of the API names are final - happy to hear better
>>>>>> names!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide feedback (here and on the other thread), for
>>>>>> missing/wrong/good items.!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <
>>>>>> matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here is, including device registration:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/UnifiedPushManagerTest.java#L41-L81
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All hammered in java... since this is a test - most of the code will
>>>>>>> be executed, when interacting with HTTP endpoints of the thing;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, there is no JS application in the test - but we do have an
>>>>>>> abstraction interface for it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/application/ConnectedJavaScriptApplication.java
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Connected? Since only "online" JS clients are receiving message -
>>>>>>> there no real "push to device" for the JS world...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <
>>>>>>> matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pushed FIRST/TEST impl + actually test case.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> YEs.... I have 'xxx'd out the KEY and certs :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <
>>>>>>>> matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My UNIT test looks (currently) like:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/matzew/3d7f9915afd8f6705da5
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <
>>>>>>>>> matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM, tech4j at gmail.com <
>>>>>>>>>> tech4j at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is look really good!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here some thoughts, and/or possible additional use-cases
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * How do we want to handle multiple devices for one user?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Instance of 'MobileApplicationInstance'; each device has (per
>>>>>>>>>> app) a different token;
>>>>>>>>>> What the apps do themselves, with multiple installs is something
>>>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, for instance, sends the push-messages to EVERY device -
>>>>>>>>>> but that's app specific sync
>>>>>>>>>> (yes, i wish there was something like IMAP, for twitter)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * How do we want to handle the other side of unified push
>>>>>>>>>>> (non-native)?
>>>>>>>>>>> ** Might just not be there yet, but want to make sure we're
>>>>>>>>>>> still thinking the same thing :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> ** Would there be an additional abstraction above this for that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> some sub type of 'MobileApplication' can/will cover that "mobile
>>>>>>>>>> web" (JS client) side:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/application/MobileApplication.java#L23
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * I'm assuming there is no good way for apps to notify you when
>>>>>>>>>>> they are uninstalled?
>>>>>>>>>>> ** As a way of removing clutter in our tables.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In apple land these are invalid tokens (see
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/notnoop/java-apns/blob/master/src/main/java/com/notnoop/apns/ApnsService.java#L161
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> So, on a scheduled base they can be remove;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Google has similar API (on their MulticastResult (returned by the
>>>>>>>>>> sender))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Push filtering - I would think IDM would be very good here.
>>>>>>>>>>> ** Sending to roles, groups, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have different users (==roles), but not spec'd out
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** When we store the device and app info what sub-system are you
>>>>>>>>>>> thinking?
>>>>>>>>>>> *** I know you were using mongo for some of the prototyping
>>>>>>>>>>> *** Would be possible to abstract to the IDM?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yes, it should be possible (desirable) to use IDM - but does not
>>>>>>>>>> really matter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Douglas Campos <qmx at qmx.me>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2013, at 10:28, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > ome more APIs, for some basic (initial) functionality:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://gist.github.com/matzew/c5fbc23bc97dfead46e1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the current form, but I'm sure we'll get asked about
>>>>>>>>>>>> more OO(ish) APIs, like device.send(Message) - is this on the plans?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > User/Dev enrollment can be addressed by (hopefully) reusing
>>>>>>>>>>>> the ag-security.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- qmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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