[aerogear-dev] Possible to send anything other than version number to simple push?

Michi Oshima michi.oshima at gmail.com
Thu Apr 3 14:03:54 EDT 2014


Thank you, Sebastien.  I'll try multiple registration.  Although, I'm a bit
confused.  Because:


   1. As far as I can see from the quick start
example<https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-simplepush-unifiedpush-quickstart>,
   per SPS Client, there'll be one registration with the SimplePush server.
    That means I only get one endpoint.
   2. So I'd use the same endpoint to register multiple times with the
   unified push server using different category each time.
   3. When the SPS client receives a version number, how can it associate a
   given version number to a particular category?  (I've not seen categories
   reaching the client.)


Am I wrong somewhere above?



On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Lucas,
>>
>> Following might do what I want (sending a "door bell" message in one shot
>> to all variants)?  Send a unified message like the following one:
>>
>>
>>    - '{ "message": { "version":"123" }, "simple-push": "version=123" }'
>>
>>
>> One slight deviation is that mobile variants like iOS and Android will
>> get the message regardless of whether the the version number is "old" or
>> not.  Is this correct?
>>
>
> Yes iOS/Android ignore the version since that is really something tied to
> Simple Push
>
>>
>> So I revisited the SimplePush spec<https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush>,
>> and I noticed it describes support for subscription to multiple channels.
>>
>> Aerogear doesn't allow multiple channels per installation, correct?  I
>> dug up an old post from Matthias:
>>
>>
>>    -
>>    http://aerogear-dev.1069024.n5.nabble.com/aerogear-dev-SimplePush-Registration-of-quot-Mobile-Variant-instance-quot-w-Unified-Push-Server-tt2805.html#none
>>
>> Well yes,  but multiple installations can belong to the same SPS Client.
> You can register multiple time, differentiate them by passing them a
> category for instance.
>
>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>
>> If an installation can subscribe to multiple channels, then it would
>> allow me to get what I originally asked about:
>>
>> Me: 'My client application (javascript on browser) holds multiple types
>> of data.  It would be nice if I can send a notification saying "there's an
>> update for this data type", rather than just "there's an update".  Or, in
>> general it'd be nice if I can send more information than just a
>> monotonically increasing number. '
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> That would be quite a breaking change and we need to discuss that, in the
> same time, as said before, you can still register a single client to
> multiple channels (and es you will have multiple installations but that do
> not really matter)
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Lucas.  I read the spec yesterday and ended up looking at
>>> disturbing auctions for 30 minutes.  I'll read it again.
>>>
>>> Another question, is there a way to send a "door bell" message *in one
>>> shot* to all iOS, Android, and SimplePush variants?
>>>
>>>
>>> well, iOS and Android notifications aren't really doorbells,  but you
>>> can send a "message" to all clients that are registered in your Push Server.
>>>
>>>  we have a Java client
>>> http://aerogear.org/docs/guides/GetStartedwithJavaSender/
>>>
>>> and a node.js client  for this
>>> https://www.npmjs.org/package/aerogear-sender-client
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (m:)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> SimplePush works only as a "door bell" to tell your app,  hey,  you
>>>> should go look on your server.
>>>>
>>>> this is the spec  https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I managed to send my first message to a browser.  Thanks for
>>>> all your help.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried sending a few different types of messages, and it so far
>>>> appears to me the only thing I can send to a simple push client is a
>>>> version number.  Can a simple push client receive anything else other than
>>>> version numbers?  If so, what does the sender need to do, and what does the
>>>> client need to do?  (If there is a good example somewhere online I can work
>>>> from that also.)
>>>>
>>>> My client application (javascript on browser) holds multiple types of
>>>> data.  It would be nice if I can send a notification saying "there's an
>>>> update for this data type", rather than just "there's an update".  Or, in
>>>> general it'd be nice if I can send more information than just a
>>>> monotonically increasing number.
>>>>
>>>> Here's my setup:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - AeroGear Push Server 0.10.0 hosted on OpenShift.
>>>>    - Sender is a JBoss app using
>>>>    org.jboss.aerogear.unifiedpush.JavaSender
>>>>    (unifiedpush-java-client-0.5.0.jar).
>>>>    - Client is a web browser using aerogear.js 1.4.0.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I read this documentation<http://aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-push-messages/>,
>>>> but my wishful thinking refused to interpret it as saying: SimplePush
>>>> variants use the "extra simple-push object" only.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Michi Oshima
>>>>
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