[aerogear-dev] Possible to send anything other than version number to simple push?
Matthias Wessendorf
matzew at apache.org
Mon Apr 7 09:55:03 EDT 2014
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi. Thank you all. I successfully got multiple registration working last
> week.
>
>
> 1. Sebastien, what is the purpose of using the local storage to store
> the mapping between channel ID and category? I'm at this time keeping the
> map in memory.
> 2. Matthias, using the current time makes sense. I'll do that. Why
> didn't I think about that?
>
> eventually, the Mozilla guys figured that out as well.
The newest/latest spec (of SimplePush) contains that now: no body; server
will use the current timestamp;
Note: our SPS server is being updated to do that too - we will do the same
for UPS and our java client
>
> Thank you all again for your attention and advice thus far.
>
> Michi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>wrote:
>
>> Hello Michi,
>>
>> IMO the version number string is a bit odd for most backend applications.
>> :-) If you don't want to maintain a "version per channel", I'd just do the
>> current timestamp (e.g. Date.now() in JS)
>>
>> -M
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Again !
>>>
>>> To make it even easier I've deployed a "multi-channel" version of the
>>> quickstart here : http://mutlichannels-sblanc.rhcloud.com/
>>> Then you can fire the CURLs for each category to see how it can handle
>>> different channels :
>>>
>>> curl -3 -u "a0f6a30e-0cda-49a4-9901-bcfdc30e5c7a:b986c86e-4092-4728-a1ed-7ac68f6d0f7a" -v -H "Accept: application/json" -H "Content-type: application/json" -X POST -d '{
>>> "categories" :["mail"],
>>> "simple-push": "version=1111"
>>>
>>> }' https://hackergartenups-sblanc.rhcloud.com/rest/sender
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> curl -3 -u "a0f6a30e-0cda-49a4-9901-bcfdc30e5c7a:b986c86e-4092-4728-a1ed-7ac68f6d0f7a" -v -H "Accept: application/json" -H "Content-type: application/json" -X POST -d '{
>>>
>>> "categories" :["news"],
>>> "simple-push": "version=1112"
>>> }' https://hackergartenups-sblanc.rhcloud.com/rest/sender
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you fire these multiple time don't forget to change the version value !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Michi,
>>>> I realized that the code I pointed you to could be a bit confusing and
>>>> also contains a small bug.
>>>>
>>>> I wrote this gist based on the quickstart example. Basically we
>>>> register to 2 channels : mail and news, we store the channelID and map that
>>>> with a String containing the service name, then in the onNotification we
>>>> check which service to call :
>>>>
>>>> https://gist.github.com/sebastienblanc/9970129
>>>>
>>>> Hope this example will make more sense !
>>>>
>>>> Seb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks at this more advanced example here
>>>>> https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-aerodoc-web/blob/master/scripts/services/notifierService.js
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You will see that we register 2 times and we get 2 different
>>>>> endpoints. Then you have to keep somewhere a link between your endpoint and
>>>>> let's say the service you want to associate to , like using the
>>>>> localStorage : localStorage.setItem(theEndpoint, "scoreService");
>>>>>
>>>>> Then when you receive a message, besides the version (which is btw not
>>>>> mandatory to be used) you also receive the channelId, then you can choose
>>>>> which service to call :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> navigator.setMessageHandler("push", function(message) {
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> var myService = localStorage.get(message.channelID);
>>>>> //now based on this you can call your specific log
>>>>> });
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I Hope this will help you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Sebastien. I'll try multiple registration. Although, I'm
>>>>>> a bit confused. Because:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. As far as I can see from the quick start example<https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-simplepush-unifiedpush-quickstart>,
>>>>>> per SPS Client, there'll be one registration with the SimplePush server.
>>>>>> That means I only get one endpoint.
>>>>>> 2. So I'd use the same endpoint to register multiple times with
>>>>>> the unified push server using different category each time.
>>>>>> 3. When the SPS client receives a version number, how can it
>>>>>> associate a given version number to a particular category? (I've not seen
>>>>>> categories reaching the client.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I wrong somewhere above?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Lucas,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Following might do what I want (sending a "door bell" message in
>>>>>>>> one shot to all variants)? Send a unified message like the following one:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - '{ "message": { "version":"123" }, "simple-push":
>>>>>>>> "version=123" }'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One slight deviation is that mobile variants like iOS and Android
>>>>>>>> will get the message regardless of whether the the version number is "old"
>>>>>>>> or not. Is this correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes iOS/Android ignore the version since that is really something
>>>>>>> tied to Simple Push
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I revisited the SimplePush spec<https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush>,
>>>>>>>> and I noticed it describes support for subscription to multiple channels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aerogear doesn't allow multiple channels per installation, correct?
>>>>>>>> I dug up an old post from Matthias:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> http://aerogear-dev.1069024.n5.nabble.com/aerogear-dev-SimplePush-Registration-of-quot-Mobile-Variant-instance-quot-w-Unified-Push-Server-tt2805.html#none
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well yes, but multiple installations can belong to the same SPS
>>>>>>> Client. You can register multiple time, differentiate them by passing them
>>>>>>> a category for instance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If an installation can subscribe to multiple channels, then it
>>>>>>>> would allow me to get what I originally asked about:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Me: 'My client application (javascript on browser) holds multiple
>>>>>>>> types of data. It would be nice if I can send a notification saying
>>>>>>>> "there's an update for this data type", rather than just "there's an
>>>>>>>> update". Or, in general it'd be nice if I can send more information than
>>>>>>>> just a monotonically increasing number. '
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be quite a breaking change and we need to discuss that,
>>>>>>> in the same time, as said before, you can still register a single client to
>>>>>>> multiple channels (and es you will have multiple installations but that do
>>>>>>> not really matter)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Lucas Holmquist <
>>>>>>>> lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Lucas. I read the spec yesterday and ended up looking at
>>>>>>>>> disturbing auctions for 30 minutes. I'll read it again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another question, is there a way to send a "door bell" message *in
>>>>>>>>> one shot* to all iOS, Android, and SimplePush variants?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well, iOS and Android notifications aren't really doorbells, but
>>>>>>>>> you can send a "message" to all clients that are registered in your Push
>>>>>>>>> Server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we have a Java client
>>>>>>>>> http://aerogear.org/docs/guides/GetStartedwithJavaSender/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and a node.js client for this
>>>>>>>>> https://www.npmjs.org/package/aerogear-sender-client
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (m:)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Lucas Holmquist <
>>>>>>>>> lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SimplePush works only as a "door bell" to tell your app, hey,
>>>>>>>>>> you should go look on your server.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this is the spec https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Michi Oshima <michi.oshima at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I managed to send my first message to a browser.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've tried sending a few different types of messages, and it so
>>>>>>>>>> far appears to me the only thing I can send to a simple push client is a
>>>>>>>>>> version number. Can a simple push client receive anything else other than
>>>>>>>>>> version numbers? If so, what does the sender need to do, and what does the
>>>>>>>>>> client need to do? (If there is a good example somewhere online I can work
>>>>>>>>>> from that also.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My client application (javascript on browser) holds multiple
>>>>>>>>>> types of data. It would be nice if I can send a notification saying
>>>>>>>>>> "there's an update for this data type", rather than just "there's an
>>>>>>>>>> update". Or, in general it'd be nice if I can send more information than
>>>>>>>>>> just a monotonically increasing number.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's my setup:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - AeroGear Push Server 0.10.0 hosted on OpenShift.
>>>>>>>>>> - Sender is a JBoss app using
>>>>>>>>>> org.jboss.aerogear.unifiedpush.JavaSender
>>>>>>>>>> (unifiedpush-java-client-0.5.0.jar).
>>>>>>>>>> - Client is a web browser using aerogear.js 1.4.0.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I read this documentation<http://aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-push-messages/>,
>>>>>>>>>> but my wishful thinking refused to interpret it as saying: SimplePush
>>>>>>>>>> variants use the "extra simple-push object" only.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michi Oshima
>>>>>>>>>>
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