[aerogear-dev] [UPS] What should the Top 3 Most Active Variants shows ?

Fri Aug 1 09:45:18 EDT 2014

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
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> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>
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>> Hum, after thinking and looking a bit I think it's easier and more clear
>> to show the "real" 3 most recent active variants like you mentioned, along
>> with the numbers of receivers for the last push messages (but the label
>> should be made more obvious to explain this number, working on that s well)
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> sounds good w/ me
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Ok, here a last proposition, because our current model do really fit what
we want to do : What about showing the 3 last activity (regardless of the
variant) , basically a select on the PushMessageInformation sorted on
submitDate and we pick the 3 first one ?

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>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>
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>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
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>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>
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>>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org
>>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>>> So the questions are, I think:
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>>>>>> 1) what does 'active' mean?
>>>>>> * total activity
>>>>>> * or recent activity
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>>>>>> Having [1] in mind, I *think* the three most recent active variants
>>>>>> makes sense
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>>>>>> 2) what number do we provide for that variant:
>>>>>> a) number of receivers/active tokens that received the last Push
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> b) total number of all receivers, in history
>>>>>> c) number of total push messages, per variant
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>>>>>> Here, I *think* that b) does not make sense, having [1] in mind. I
>>>>>> think presenting a) or c) as the number on that "three recent active"
>>>>>> variants is a nice info.
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>>>>> Ok , but imagine this we have 4 variants, A,B,C,D.
>>>>> They all sent the same messages within the same hour , starting with :
>>>>>  A sends 5000 messages
>>>>>  B  sends 100 messages
>>>>>  C sends 15 messages
>>>>> D sends 50 messages
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>>>> I think messages == receivers ? (I doubt that one variant will send 5k
>>>> of push messages - I'd try to sue the company for that amount of spam on my
>>>> phone)
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>>> yeah receivers :)
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>>>>> The top 3 recent active are B,C and D , it's a bit a pita A do not
>>>>> show up,
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>>>> that's life! :)
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>>>>> since it was really the more active.
>>>>> Shall we define active within a period (24 hours ? ) ?
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>>>> doesn't make that even more complex ?
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>>> Well, not that much I think since we are already going to introduce a
>>> new query based on dates. I will take a look.
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>>>>> Sebi
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>>>>>> -Matthias
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>>>>>> [1] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-673
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>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I decided to start a new thread after some discussions we had on a
>>>>>>> previous thread[1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basically, we are talking about this part of the dashboard :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: screenshot-1.png - Latest 25/Jul/14 8:20 AM - Sebastien
>>>>>>> Blanc]
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>>>>>>> It appeared that is not really clear what we want to show there, as
>>>>>>> a side note, the current query behind this is not correct and should change
>>>>>>> whatever we decide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, what can we show here :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.  Show the most (three) recent active variants (and their # of
>>>>>>> receivers)
>>>>>>> Active means here, the 3 latest variants that sent a Push Message.
>>>>>>> The term "receivers" can also be confusing , do we want to show :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.a : The number of receivers/active tokens that received the last
>>>>>>> Push message (i.e : Push Message A sent to 10 people and Push
>>>>>>> Message B to 5 people, we show 5) ?
>>>>>>> 1.b : The total number of receivers/actives tokens  of this variant
>>>>>>> (i.e : Push Message A sent to 10 people and Push Message B to 5 people, we
>>>>>>> show 15) ?
>>>>>>> 1.c : The total number of Push Messages sent (i.e : Push Message A
>>>>>>> sent to 10 people and Push Message B to 5 people, we show 2). ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Show the most active variants (and their # of receivers)
>>>>>>> Almost same than 1. but here we look at all the variants even those
>>>>>>> without an recent activity.
>>>>>>> Here again 1.a/1.b or 1.c applies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The core question, IMO, is what would be an useful information for
>>>>>>> the user ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebi
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/aerogear-dev/2014-July/008548.html
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