[aerogear-dev] Beyond SimplePush's simplicity

Daniel Bevenius daniel.bevenius at gmail.com
Mon Oct 20 09:43:30 EDT 2014


>Oh, aren't the new SimplePush specs (or was it WebPush) defining richer
payloads, like we know from Android or iOS?
That is for WebPush, I'm not aware of any message payload (besides a
version/timestamp) for SimplePush.

On 20 October 2014 15:25, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:

> I vote no for this.
>
> I think storing messages, for any period of time is bad.
>
> I think SimplePush should stay “Simple” and we should follow the spec on
> this.
>
> On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm just worried about storing the message, for stuff like privacy, for
> instance. Let's make a really short TTL or better let's delete the mesage
> right after it has been retrieved.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Lukáš Fryč <lukas.fryc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Awesome, great to hear that SimplePush will get a native support for a
>> full message content.
>>
>> As Erik said, in the meantime, we could unify this behavior.
>> I have created the associated issue:
>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1073
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Erik Jan de Wit <edewit at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lukáš,
>>>
>>> I like that idea, because in the end our goal is to unify. And I think
>>> that the simple push protocol will be changed in the future to allow
>>> for ‘normal’ message sending. So we could fallback afterwards.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Erik Jan
>>>
>>> On 20 Oct,2014, at 13:58 , Lukáš Fryč <lukas.fryc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I'm working on a demo of UPS pushing to iOS, Android, Windows, as well
>>> as Firefox OS using our Cordova plugin.
>>>
>>> But as you know, with FFOS it is not that simple - since SimplePush
>>> protocol allows to transfer just incremental versions, we are not able to
>>> deliver any interesting message.
>>>
>>> UnifiedPush Server could be a correct place where we unify and shield
>>> our users from this limitation:
>>>
>>>
>>> my idea is storing the message on UPS under the SimplePush endpoint URL.
>>> Once the message with version reaches the client, he would contact UPS to
>>> retrieve this message under a key ( pushEndpoint, version ).
>>>
>>> The messages could have default built-in TTL to allow periodic cleanup.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~ Lukas
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