[aerogear-dev] GSoC plan for WebPush
Matthias Wessendorf
matzew at apache.org
Tue May 17 14:29:35 EDT 2016
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Idel Pivnitskiy <idel.pivnitskiy at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Right, but that goes through their service. I think one of the big
>> advantages here is that with a truly open WebPush Server/Protocol/API, you
>> as a company, can run your own, inpendent push network. Having support to
>> connect to a custom WebPush server from the (standard?) JS API would be
>> nice. Makes you more independent.
>> E.g. imagine push on a private network, where not all devcies are
>> connected to the public internet ;-)
>
>
> Yes, good case!
> But I think that it will not work with Chrome now:
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Push_API/Using_the_Push_API#Extra_steps_for_Chrome_support
> Hope that it will be possible with Firefox, but I need to double check it.
>
We could offer a little decorator, if the user explicitly wants a customer
server :)
We did that for simple push too:
https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-js/blob/master/src/simplepush/aerogear.simplepush.js#L27
>
> Best regards,
> Idel Pivnitskiy
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> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Idel Pivnitskiy <
>> idel.pivnitskiy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does it make sense starting with more focused examples? Showing
>>>> Chrome/Firefox receiving message via the WebPush APIs from the standalone
>>>> WebPush Server ?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that we don't need our WebPush Server for Chrome/Firefox
>>> support. Because it possible to send push messages to Chrome only
>>> through GCM, using their API-key.
>>>
>>
>> Right, but that goes through their service. I think one of the big
>> advantages here is that with a truly open WebPush Server/Protocol/API, you
>> as a company, can run your own, inpendent push network. Having support to
>> connect to a custom WebPush server from the (standard?) JS API would be
>> nice. Makes you more independent.
>>
>> E.g. imagine push on a private network, where not all devcies are
>> connected to the public internet ;-)
>>
>> Not a high priority, but IMO worth to think about this
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think we can also remove the SimplePush from the master branch of
>>>> UPS, while on this project, no ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Think that it could be done at the end of the summer, if there are no
>>> reasons to keep it. After or during the integration of WebPush Server to
>>> UPS. I prefer after, like it was with Doclet and Miredot.
>>>
>>
>> +1 makes sense to remove SimplePush, once WebPush is around. WebPush is
>> the successor of SimplePush in general
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Idel Pivnitskiy
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>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Idel Pivnitskiy <
>>>> idel.pivnitskiy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've come back from the little vocation and ready for the work on my
>>>>> GSoC project.
>>>>>
>>>>> What will be our plan?
>>>>> I may work according to my proposal: the first steps will be the
>>>>> adding WebPush support for Chrome and Firefox directly to UPS (through
>>>>> Google Cloud Messaging and Mozilla Push Service).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like that, but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Another way: I may begin my work from WebPush Server.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does it make sense starting with more focused examples? Showing
>>>> Chrome/Firefox receiving message via the WebPush APIs from the standalone
>>>> WebPush Server ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At the end of the day, UPS is just another 'driver', triggering the
>>>> push ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I think we can also remove the SimplePush from the master branch of
>>>> UPS, while on this project, no ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we will begin from UPS, from which branch should I work? And for
>>>>> which release?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Idel Pivnitskiy
>>>>> --
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>>>>> GitHub: @idelpivnitskiy <https://github.com/idelpivnitskiy>
>>>>>
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