[Aerogear-users] categories have been hijacked

[Summers Pittman]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
wrote:

> Coming back to this, after a loooooooooooooong, looooooong time...
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> From: Summers Pittman <supittma at redhat.com>
> Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Aerogear-users] categories have been hijacked
> To: aerogear-users at lists.jboss.org
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> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Kelvin Lunsford <kelvin at qantel.com>
> wrote:
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>> Hi Summers,
>>
>> GCM topic messages go to all devices registered for the topic. Topic
>> notifications cannot be restricted to an alias or list of aliases.
>>
>> The way it worked before, and still works on ios, you can send a command
>> to UPS with an "alias" name AND a "categories" name and it will only go to
>> devices that have registered using that "alias" name AND that "categories"
>> name.  UPS finds which devices meet the selection criteria and push
>> notification requests are sent for those devices.
>>
>> Requests with aliases and categories can target specific users in a group.
>>
>> With real "categories" you can segment users into groups, so every device
>> can be assigned a category, and sub-groups can be defined by using more
>> than one category per device.  This is useful for geographic or
>> organizational targeting.
>>
>> I have no problem with GCM topics. Just make it a new feature.  Give me
>> back my categories.
>>
>
> So the goal isn't to replace or hijack categories with topics. The goal is
> to leverage Google's API fully and transparently to the UPS user so that we
> make fewer calls and provide a better experience.  You have some great use
> cases that haven't been brought up.  Keep in mind that the PRs open right
> now are a "first draft" of the technology.
>
>
>
> NOTE: Between Google IO 2015 and now, April 2016, there was a change on
> topics: No more limitations of subscribed devices! Before it was limited to
> 1 million.
>
> Now, this also means options :-) We could just auto register each android
> device to one topic (e.g. /topics/VARIANT_ID), *IF* there is no category
> provided!
>

I think you mean always register a device to a variant specific topic.
That way we can send all Android GCM users a message with one push message
from the push server.


>
> Regarding the concerns, to 'alias' or any other criteria, my understanding
> is that, for now, we just use GCM topic only if nothing else, than the
> category is provided to the RESTful Sender API.
>
> However, we could extend our Device Group feature, and kinda group all
> devices to a users group, and have the category play in there too. E.g.
> have some groups like:
> * matthias_football
> * matthias_music
> but the sending here, would be a message to a device group, not a category
>
> -Matthias
>
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>
>   Feel free to join in on the discussion about topics on aerogear-dev.  It
> is really important we do this right and I think you can help with that.
>
> Summers
>
>
>> - Kelvin
>>
>>
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>> From: aerogear-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org [mailto:
>> aerogear-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Summers Pittman
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:12 PM
>> To: aerogear-users at lists.jboss.org
>> Subject: Re: [Aerogear-users] categories have been hijacked
>>
>>
>> >
>> >On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Kelvin Lunsford <kelvin at qantel.com>
>> wrote:
>> >Setting "categories" in the push payload was working for android and ios
>> in cordova push plugin 1.1.1.
>> >
>> >For version 2.0.2 "categories" only works for ios.
>> >
>> >It looks like "categories" is being hijacked in android for a GCM
>> feature called "topics".
>> >
>> >I liked "categories".  I was using it.  Now it's gone.  GCM topics is
>> not a drop-in replacement.  It's not the same thing.
>>
>> What do categories do that topics do not do?
>>
>> >New features should get new names and new commands.
>> >
>> >- Kelvin
>>
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