[bv-dev] Legal to validate constraints more than once?

Matt Benson mbenson at apache.org
Mon Jan 21 11:16:49 EST 2013


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org>wrote:

> 2013/1/21 Matt Benson <mbenson at apache.org>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Hardy Ferentschik <hardy at hibernate.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 3:36 PM, Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm wondering whether it's legal that one constraint gets validated
>>> more than once during one validation operation. The spec seems a bit
>>> contradictory in this regard.
>>> >
>>> > In section 4.6 "Validation routine" [1] it says:
>>> >
>>> > "[...] this implies that a given validation constraint will not be
>>> processed more than once per validation."
>>> >
>>> > Section 4.6.1 "Object graph validation" says though:
>>> >
>>> > "[...] object graph navigation can lead to multiple validations of the
>>> same constraint and the same object instance but the set of constraint
>>> validation is deterministic and the algorithm prevents infinite loops."
>>> >
>>> > What is right here? Or is this to say that *only* during graph
>>> validation a constraint may be validated multiple times but not e.g. during
>>> validation of multiple groups, all of which a constraint is part of?
>>>
>>> If you are just validating a single bean every constraint can only be
>>> validated once. However, when you are dealing with object graphs a
>>> constraint can be validated once per path on which you reach it.
>>> So both sentences make sense in their context, but taken together there
>>> seems to be a contradiction. Maybe the first statement could just be
>>> removed?
>>>
>>>
>> My read of these sections yields an understanding that, during any
>> validation call, the same validated object/constraint pair must be
>> evaluated only once.  I seem to be in agreement with Hardy here.
>>
>
> I'm confused, you say each object/constraint may only be validated once,
> while Hardy said that during graph validation the same object/constraint
> actually may be validated several times. So did you want to say you
> *dis*agree with what Hardy said?
>

Okay, reading Hardy more closely, he said "a constraint can be validated
once per path on which you reach it."  The spec also says "To prevent
infinite loops, the Bean implementation must ignore the cascading operation
if the object instance has already been validated in the current path
(starting from the root object)."  I mistakenly oversimplified Hardy's
statement to take this into account.  My point is, you can validate the
same *constraint* as many times as it is encountered, as long as each
encounter refers to a different validated object instance.  That's how I
understand the language used.

Matt


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>> Matt
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>>> --Hardy
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