[bv-dev] BV 2.0 - Add constraints?

Thu Sep 15 19:21:40 EDT 2016

I sent to adopt JSR email list and share it on social media.
https://twitter.com/otaviojava/status/776549007799701504

On 15 Sep 2016 12:00, "Otávio Gonçalves de Santana" <
otaviopolianasantana at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice form!!
> I'm sharing it in adopt JSR program email list.
>
> On 15 Sep 2016 03:46, "Gunnar Morling" <gunnar at hibernate.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've created a survey using Google Forms on our blog (staging atm.):
>> http://staging.beanvalidation.org/news/2016/09/15/
>> which-constraints-to-add/
>>
>> Feedback welcome. Unless I hear back otherwise, I'll push it to the
>> production site tomorrow and then let's announce it on Twitter to get some
>> answers. I'd leave it open for two weeks (allowing people to reply after J1
>> which is next week), which should be plenty of time.
>>
>> One question I have is should we allow anonymous voting or require
>> logging in via Google. The latter prevents double votes, but it raises the
>> level for participation and don't think people feel motivated to vote
>> several times on this topic really.
>>
>> Andy thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Gunnar
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-14 12:02 GMT+02:00 Marco Molteni <moltenma at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I agree about @Length. It was listed only because of the frequency.  I'd
>>> limit the addition to @NotBlank and @NotEmpty.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Btw. I don't see a strong reason for @Length, as we have @Size in the
>>>> spec for it already.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's commonly used in older applications which migrated from HV
>>>> 3.x (proprietary API) to HV 4.x (BV RI) and kept using the legacy
>>>> constraint instead of using the spec'-ed @Size.
>>>>
>>>> 2016-09-14 11:48 GMT+02:00 Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the idea of collecting some more feedback from the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> A blog post may be an option, though I reckon feedback will be sparse
>>>>> based on previous experiences. I'd rather do a survey as it's more
>>>>> actionable for people. Either on Twitter (though that seems a bit limited)
>>>>> or using Google Forms [1], which is my preference.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll prepare something and share it with you soon. If the survey looks
>>>>> good, we can promote it on Twitter and during the Hackergarten at J1 (of
>>>>> course talking to people in person there will be a great chance to learn
>>>>> about their wishes, too).
>>>>>
>>>>> It'd be nice if we got some insight from that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Gunnar
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/forms/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-09-09 11:34 GMT+02:00 Marco Molteni <moltenma at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which is the best / common way to get a representative feedback
>>>>>> according to your experience?
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Christian Kaltepoth <
>>>>>> christian at kaltepoth.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also think that adding the most popular 3rd party constraints
>>>>>>> directly to the spec is a good thing. Especially @NotBlank and @NotEmpty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I also agree that it would be nice to gather more feedback
>>>>>>> from the community to learn which constraints people would like to see in
>>>>>>> the spec.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-09-06 20:50 GMT+02:00 Michael Nascimento <misterm at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 to including them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Marco Molteni <moltenma at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > It would be possible to add some built-in constraints to the V
>>>>>>>> 2.0?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > @NotBlank, @NotEmpty, @Length are used very often in projects,
>>>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>>> > already present in Hibernate Validator and their implementation
>>>>>>>> is well
>>>>>>>> > defined.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > What do you think?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Here a list of the most used constraint for GitHub's projects
>>>>>>>> (the numbers
>>>>>>>> > change at every request but you get the idea. HV = Hibernate
>>>>>>>> Validator, BV =
>>>>>>>> > Bean Validation):
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > 189'143 - BV - NotNull
>>>>>>>> >  56'902 - BV - Size
>>>>>>>> >  39'551 - HV - NotEmpty <-
>>>>>>>> >  20'687 - HV - NotBlank <-
>>>>>>>> >  17'735 - BV - Pattern
>>>>>>>> >  16'763 - HV - Email
>>>>>>>> >  16'033 - BV - Min
>>>>>>>> >  12'769 - HV - Length <-
>>>>>>>> >   7'806 - BV - Digits
>>>>>>>> >   4'982 - BV - Max
>>>>>>>> >   4'971 - BV - Past
>>>>>>>> >   3'598 - BV - DecimalMin
>>>>>>>> >   2'753 - BV - AssertTrue
>>>>>>>> >   2'379 - BV - DecimalMax
>>>>>>>> >   2'308 - BV - Future
>>>>>>>> >   1'999 - HV - Range
>>>>>>>> >   1'497 - HV - URL
>>>>>>>> > < 1'000 other constraints
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Cheers
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Marco
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Christian Kaltepoth
>>>>>>> Blog: http://blog.kaltepoth.de/
>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/chkal
>>>>>>> GitHub: https://github.com/chkal
>>>>>>>
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