[cdi-dev] How to process the @ManagedBean from JEE and CDI managed bean.

[Pete Muir]

There is a thread on the Java EE EG to discuss the future of managed beans, and how to best unify it all.

IMO the @ManagedBean usage was a mistake, and it would have been better to just describe an abstract set of services on which other specs could build, rather than allow the user to use them directly. Our (Red Hat)'s opinion is that @ManagedBean should be deprecated in EE7.

On 24 Apr 2012, at 10:31, Mark Struberg wrote:

> Btw Hantsy, 
> 
> 
> Please don't get my swearing wrong! Your question actually was very good, I did hear this one and a few others really often already. 
> 
> The cursing goes more into the direction of folks who add premature features to a spec without _ever_ trying to use it.
> 
> LieGrue,
> strub
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>
>> To: Hantsy Bai <hantsy at gmail.com>; "cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org" <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] How to process the @ManagedBean from JEE and CDI managed bean.
>> 
>> T he @ManagedBean from EE6 was added in the last seconds before the EE6 umbrella 
>> spec got finished. Long after all the other specs went final. There is just no 
>> use for it. No other spec ever uses it. Plus the visibility and detection rules 
>> just clash with the rules of the other specs.
>> 
>> When do some specs finally end up adding prospect functionality which is of no 
>> use? *bangshisheadonthedesk*
>> EE @ManagedBean is just fu**** up s***t
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Hantsy Bai <hantsy at gmail.com>
>>> To: cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>> Cc: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:02 AM
>>> Subject: [cdi-dev] How to process the @ManagedBean from JEE and CDI managed 
>> bean.
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> In java EE 6, there is a ManagedBean spec in the core, but it is not a 
>>> standalone spec, @ManagedBean has basic lifecyle,  @Predestroy 
>>> @Postconstrcut...
>>> 
>>> As a developer, I hope all Container managed beans(JSF managed bean, 
>>> EJB, MDB, WS etc) are refined from this ManagedBean, including CDI Bean. 
>>> Thus we   it seems smooth to developer like like Spring framework 
>>> provided...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Hantsy
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