[cdi-dev] [servlet-spec users] [jsr369-experts] [116-CDIRelatedBeansInServletSpec] PROPOSAL

[Werner Keil]

>MS> side) is kind of a @WebAppScoped. This is really missing atm. But
>MS> again this must also be active in e.g. JMS invocations which form
>MS> kind a 'logical app'.

"logical app" what's wrong with @ApplicationScoped especially for JMS?
We got e.g. a very distributed Java EE app here at the current client where
JMS is a vital part, but it's not just used in the Web tier.

 Werner




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> From: Edward Burns <edward.burns at oracle.com>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] [servlet-spec users] [jsr369-experts]
>         [116-CDIRelatedBeansInServletSpec] PROPOSAL
> To: Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>, users at servlet-spec.java.net,
>         Cdi-dev <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
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> Mark added cdi-dev to the recipients list, but I am not subscribed to
> that (please don't add me, I rely on JJ to keep me up to date!), so this
> may bounce there.
>
> Also, Mark, there is no <jsr369-users at servlet-spec.java.net>.  The users
> lists are re-used from JSR to JSR for each technology.  Thus, I have put
> users at servlet-spec.java.net in place of the non-existent list.
>
> On Wednesday, 19 November 2014, 19:40, Edward Burns <
> edward.burns at oracle.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> EB> section 15.5.15 "Contexts and Dependency Injection for Java EE
> EB> requirements".
>
> EB> The CDI spec is trying to trim itself down [...]
>
> EB> CDI Spec section 3.8 [1] places some requirements on CDI
> implementations
> EB> when running with Servlet. To better suit user desires for modularity
> EB> these requirements are better met by moving them to the Servlet
> EB> spec.
>
> [...]
>
> EB> To put these items in the Servlet spec, we may have to couch them in
> EB> terms similar to, "when running in an environment that also supports
> EB> CDI...".
>
> EB> PROPOSAL:
>
> EB> Include language in our spec section 15.5.15 which allows the CDI spec
> EB> to remove their language while preserving desired existing user
> EB> functionality.
>
> [...]
>
> >>>>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:47:19 +0000 (UTC), Mark Struberg <
> struberg at yahoo.de> said:
>
> MS> I'm not quite sure that it's worth it. The @RequestScoped and
> MS> @SessionScoped are already in the CDI spec package. And as you know
> MS> we must not split packages between different specs.
>
> >>>>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:32:39 +0100, arjan tijms <
> arjan.tijms at gmail.com> said:
>
> AT> I don't think it's about moving those scope annotations, but just
> AT> about the injection of HttpServletRequest, HttpSession and
> AT> ServletContext.
>
> Granted.  The proposal does not touch those.  Mark was just questioning
> if it was worth it.  I am skeptical myself, but am responsive to
> community input.
>
> MS> It would feel quite unnatural to have annotations in the CDI APIs
> MS> but the description in the servlet spec. [...]
>
> I'll trust that Antoine Sabot-Durand (ASD) will take your reservations
> into account when deciding to press on with CDI-492-FobStuffToServlet or
> not.
>
> MS> What we probably could add (regardless whether on CDI or Servlet
> MS> side) is kind of a @WebAppScoped. This is really missing atm. But
> MS> again this must also be active in e.g. JMS invocations which form
> MS> kind a 'logical app'.
>
> That's a whole new thing, again for ASD to consider.  As you observe, it
> doesn't belong in Servlet because JMS can also use it.
>
> Ed
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