[cdi-dev] Fwd: More about SE/EE splitting

Thu Apr 16 03:45:40 EDT 2015


You can also check the diff in the pull request : https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/241/files <https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/241/files>


> Le 16 avr. 2015 à 09:27, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves at gmail.com <mailto:antonio.goncalves at gmail.com>> a écrit :
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> Reading my emails upside down, just found the link : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2898173/cdi-spec.html <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2898173/cdi-spec.html>
> 
> Antonio
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves at gmail.com <mailto:antonio.goncalves at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Antoine, I've lost track of this topic. Is the document somewhere ? Can we easily see the diffs ?
> 
> Managed Beans are already confusing.... turning it to "bean" can be even more confusing.
> 
> Antonio
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com <mailto:pmuir at redhat.com>> wrote:
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> > On 15 Apr 2015, at 13:31, Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine at sabot-durand.net <mailto:antoine at sabot-durand.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Rethinking of this task and reading the feedback on this, I really think we should go step by step on this splitting.
> >
> > What I have produced here is a full extraction of EJB in the spec to put it in EE part.
> 
> Yes, this is a great start.
> 
> > There are still Java EE references in core with EL, JSF, Servlet.
> 
> I’m least worried about EL, most about JSF and Serlet.
> 
> >
> > The more problematic part is the Contexts chapter: hard to remove servlet ref without rewriting all...
> >
> > And yes, I did some rewording that could be no very nice.
> >
> > In some places I replaces "Managed Beans or Session Beans" by the generic term "bean”.
> 
> This is definitely not ok, as you expanded the scope of the sentence to include built-in beans, producer methods, producer fields, and custom beans. I would suggest providing list of these changes, so we can review each one.
> 
> > Java EE component was replaced by component (yes, I'm not sure it is very meaningful)
> 
> I also think this is problematic. A Java EE component is a specific thing. I would suggest providing list of these changes, so we can review each one.
> 
> >
> > In the EE part, I added changed all "session bean" occurrences by "EJB session bean”.
> 
> Ok, I don’t think this is a problem.
> 
> >
> > The step I see are:
> >
> > 0) Validate that we're all ok with the principle of splitting
> > 1) validate that all EJB references are removed from core
> > 2) Correct bad terminology that I introduced
> >
> > And then we should continue the splitting by rewriting the contexts chapter and EL references in Core.
> 
> +1
> 
> >
> > Antoine
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