[cdi-dev] Invitation: CDI weekly meeting - Toutes les semaines entre

Werner Keil werner.keil at gmail.com
Tue Mar 17 11:20:22 EDT 2015


It's all French, but I suppose the meeting is today not tomorrow?

As mentioned, I can't use IRC in the office, and there's an overlap with
JSR 364 (phone call works as long as it's not an international line) so I
won't be able to join this week I'm afraid.

If Europe also gets to Daylight Saving, the other call may be later, then I
could probably attend both (from home;-)

Werner

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>    1. Re: CDI SE Google Doc Updated (Martin Kouba)
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> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:05:40 +0100
> From: Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI SE Google Doc Updated
> To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament at gmail.com>,   Jozef Hartinger
>         <jharting at redhat.com>,  Antoine Sabot-Durand <
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> Dne 17.3.2015 v 10:49 John D. Ament napsal(a):
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:50 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com
> > <mailto:mkouba at redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     It's ok to have the same default bean discovery mode in Java SE.
> >     However, I think there is no easy way to scan the classpath and
> "detect"
> >     bean archives without beans.xml, i.e. implicit bean archives without
> the
> >     descriptor.
> >
> >
> > You should be able to read java.class.path to determine the possible
> > archives.  Then use the URL of the class itself to find which JAR it
> > came from.
>
> I'm not sure this will cover all use-cases (Web Start, extension
> classes, ...). Moreover, elements of the class are platform-specific. So
> it wouldn't be trivial to parse it.
>
> >
> >
> >     That's the reason why bean archives without beans.xml are not
> supported
> >     in Weld SE.
> >
> >     If anyone knows how to implement this properly, speak out.
> >
> >     Martin
> >
> >     Dne 17.3.2015 v 07:22 Jozef Hartinger napsal(a):
> >      >
> >      > On 03/16/2015 05:45 PM, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >>> Le 16 mars 2015 ? 11:02, Jozef Hartinger <jharting at redhat.com
> >     <mailto:jharting at redhat.com>
> >      >>> <mailto:jharting at redhat.com <mailto:jharting at redhat.com>>> a
> >     ?crit :
> >      >>>
> >      >>> Btw was there any further discussion about the bean discovery
> >     mode in SE
> >      >>>
> >      >>
> >      >> For the time being we decided to have the same discovery mode in
> SE
> >      >> (default to Annotated). If someone has a good reason to change
> the
> >      >> default mode in SE and/or add a new discovery mode, I?d be glad
> to
> >      >> hear about it.
> >      >
> >     http://lists.jboss.org/__pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/__006334.html
> >     <http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/006334.html>
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >>> On 03/16/2015 10:45 AM, Jozef Hartinger wrote:
> >      >>>> The CDIProvider serves as a kind of SPI for CDI's static
> >     methods to
> >      >>>> be able to call into the implementation. I don't think reusing
> it
> >      >>>> also as a user-facing code is a good idea. What people
> >     suggesting to
> >      >>>> reuse CDIProvider had in mind, I think, was to reuse it as the
> SPI
> >      >>>> for talking to the CDI implementation instead. That way, the
> >      >>>> initialize() static method of
> >     CDIContainer/StartedCDI/__whatever we
> >      >>>> call it can use CDIProvider internally to actually start the
> >     container.
> >      >>>>
> >      >>>> In addition, the current proposal does not make it possible to
> >      >>>> implement parallel container instances.
> >      >>>>
> >      >>>> Jozef
> >      >>>>
> >      >>>> On 03/15/2015 05:03 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> >      >>>>> HI all,
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> Apologies for being a week late on getting this doc
> together.  I
> >      >>>>> had some personal issues pop up after my leg came out of its
> cast
> >      >>>>> that consumed most of my week last week.
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> Anywho, I've updated the doc with a summary of what was
> discussed
> >      >>>>> with CDI SE bootstrap support.  You can find that here:
> >      >>>>>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1LgsGT-__AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-__wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing
> >     <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LgsGT-AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> There are two minor changes that I made from where we last
> >      >>>>> discussed, as when I was putting together code I found some
> gaps
> >      >>>>> and figured it best to fix them here than later.
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> 1. CDIProvider does not implement AutoCloseable.  Since CDI
> class
> >      >>>>> maintains a reference to the provider, implementing
> AutoCloseable
> >      >>>>> was not adding anything.
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> 2. I added a method boolean isInitialized() so that the
> >     caller can
> >      >>>>> know if they need to start the container (or if it's already
> >     running).
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> Locally, I've also modified the CDI.current() method to use
> >      >>>>> getCDIProvider() instead of internally finding the provider
> since
> >      >>>>> we now have a getter.
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> One thing I'd like to get feedback on is if calling
> >      >>>>> initialize/shutdown in a container should throw
> >      >>>>> IllegalStateException, or probably better to throw
> >      >>>>> UnsupportedOperationException when called in EE containers.
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> Let me know your thoughts.
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>> John
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>>
> >      >>>>>
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> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:06:12 +0000
> From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine at sabot-durand.net>
> Subject: [cdi-dev] Invitation: CDI weekly meeting - Toutes les
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