[cdi-dev] Team mentions on github
Werner Keil
werner.keil at gmail.com
Wed Oct 19 05:48:37 EDT 2016
Martin,
Thanks for pointing that out. Have to try it on GitHub, e.g. issues or
elsewhere. I used quoting individual users before on many cases.
However, CDI uses JIRA at JBoss, so not sure, if this would work there, too?
It does in the GitHub issue tracker. PRs if there's more discussion there
might work, but maybe not the issue tracker, or do we have an EG group
there, too?
Werner
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> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:29:39 +0200
> From: Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Spliting SE package in an independent jar
> To: John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
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> Meaning SE API adds stuff to what EE already needs not sub-setting it, so
> you end up with more interfaces on SE than EE.
>
> If the additional SE JAR is simply for bootstrapping on SE, that's
> understandable, but it does not meet the idea of
>
> >5. Define a lightweight container, which takes the annotations specified
> by the @Inject specification, defines the behaviour of the container (which
> @Inject failed to do), and adds a couple of popular features from CDI such
> as producer >methods. This will allow much wider adoption of CDI in the
> Java world, and provide a great stepping stone between Java SE, a servlet
> container, OSGi and a full Java EE server.
> from the proposal.
>
> Was that found out of scope or not doable in CDI 2?
>
> Having 2 JARs where EE only nees one is not what I would consider
> "lightweight".
>
> Werner
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:23 PM, John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thats why cdi-se-api depends on cdi-api.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:37 AM
> > *To:* John Ament
> > *Cc:* cdi-dev
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [cdi-dev] Spliting SE package in an independent jar
> >
> > Yes, but on SE you can't just use the "cdi-se-api" on its own.
> >
> > So SE on the API level needs 2 JARs not just one. That's what I mean.
> > I trust the sum of all JARs for an implementation would be somewhat
> > smaller on SE, otherwise the "Micro" idea of using a self-executable or
> > "Fat" JAR in those places would be ad-absurdum, if you end up with a "Fat
> > JAR" that's bigger than most existing app servers;-)
> >
> > I would have expected a
> > core-api
> > se-api
> > ee-api
> >
> > kind of setup, but if it won't blow implementations on the SE side, I
> also
> > understand that.
> >
> > Werner
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:19 PM, John Ament <
> john.ament at spartasystems.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Opposite Werner, EE API is larger and has the bulk of the content. SE
> >> API at this point has two classes.
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* cdi-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org <cdi-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.
> org>
> >> on behalf of Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 5:27 AM
> >> *To:* cdi-dev
> >>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [cdi-dev] Spliting SE package in an independent jar
> >>
> >> So cdi-se-api is larger than the (core) EE API?
> >>
> >> An SE implementation should hopefully have a smaller footprint than
> >> current EE ones (e.g. Weld)?
> >>
> >> Werner
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:09 AM, <cdi-dev-request at lists.jboss.org>
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> >>> 1. Re: Spliting SE package in an independent jar (Martin Kouba)
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> >>> 3. [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-638) Introduce a new xsd for CDI 2.0
> >>> (Antoine Sabot-Durand (JIRA))
> >>> 4. [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-638) Introduce a new xsd for CDI 2.0
> >>> (Antoine Sabot-Durand (JIRA))
> >>> 5. No meeting tomorrow (Antoine Sabot-Durand)
> >>> 6. Re: Spliting SE package in an independent jar (Emily Jiang)
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> >>> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:56:24 +0200
> >>> From: Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Spliting SE package in an independent jar
> >>> To: John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>, Antoine Sabot-Durand
> >>> <antoine at sabot-durand.net>, cdi-dev <
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> >>> +1 for John's proposal.
> >>>
> >>> So there will be two API artifacts:
> >>> * cdi-api
> >>> * cdi-se-api (depends on cdi-api)
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> Dne 12.10.2016 v 12:40 John Ament napsal(a):
> >>> > the way I've envisioned it:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > - There is no dedicated EE API (none that I could find that is EE
> only,
> >>> > except for perhaps session scoped)t
> >>> >
> >>> > - There is SE specific API and the current API could be considered
> >>> "core"
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Take the current API module and create two submodules, one for core
> and
> >>> > one for SE. SE depends on core. EE still refers to core as the same
> >>> > existing coordinates (create new coordinates for the parent).
> >>> >
> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> ------------
> >>> > *From:* cdi-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> >>> > <cdi-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org> on behalf of Antoine Sabot-Durand
> >>> > <antoine at sabot-durand.net>
> >>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:18 AM
> >>> > *To:* cdi-dev
> >>> > *Subject:* [cdi-dev] Spliting SE package in an independent jar
> >>> >
> >>> > to avoid including CDI SE features in Java EE, we already talk about
> >>> > creating a specific SE jar.
> >>> >
> >>> > Any thought on this approach?
> >>> >
> >>> > Antoine
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> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:13:38 +0200
> From: Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com>
> Subject: [cdi-dev] Team mentions on github
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> Dear EG,
>
> I've just found a github feature called "team mentions" [1]. It allows
> to reference (send notifications to) every member of a team. The syntax
> is: @orgname/teamname.
>
> In cdi-spec organization there is a team called EG [2]. Sometimes it
> might be useful to reference this team e.g. when a PR is changed/needs
> review of EG.
>
> I've added several active members and invited few others. Feel free to
> accept/reject invitation or send request to join the team.
>
> To reference the EG team in comments/issues: @cdi-spec/eg
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin
>
> [1]
> https://guides.github.com/features/issues/#mentions
>
> [2]
> https://github.com/orgs/cdi-spec/teams/eg
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> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 04:22:00 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Martin Kouba (JIRA)" <issues at jboss.org>
> Subject: [cdi-dev] [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-625) When exactly are events with
> @Initialized(X.class) and @Destroyed(X.class) qualifiers fired
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> [ https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-625?page=com.
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> Martin Kouba reassigned CDI-625:
> --------------------------------
>
> Assignee: Martin Kouba
>
>
> > When exactly are events with @Initialized(X.class) and
> @Destroyed(X.class) qualifiers fired
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------
> >
> > Key: CDI-625
> > URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-625
> > Project: CDI Specification Issues
> > Issue Type: Clarification
> > Components: Events
> > Reporter: Martin Kouba
> > Assignee: Martin Kouba
> > Labels: F2F2016
> > Fix For: 2.0 .Final
> >
> >
> > The spec states that {{@Initialized(X.class)}} is fired when a context
> is initialized and {{@Destroyed(X.class)}} when a context is destroyed
> (note that for {{@ApplicationScoped}} the wording leaves out the context:
> _"when the application is destroyed"_).
> > Does it mean that:
> > * {{@Initialized(X.class)}} is fired *after the initialization* of a
> context is finished, i.e. the context is ready?
> > * {{@Destroyed(X.class)}} is fired *after the destruction* of a context
> is finished, i.e. after all the beans are destroyed?
> > I'm asking because for {{@Destroyed(X.class)}} it might be useful to
> perform some cleanup before the context is actually destroyed - see also
> CDI-601.
> > In RI/Weld, the behaivour of {{@Destroyed(ApplicationScoped.class)}} is
> currently a little bit inconsistent. For webapps and Weld SE, the event is
> fired before the context is destroyed. But for non-web EE modules (e.g. ejb
> jar) the event is fired after the context is destroyed.
> > I believe this should be more clear.
>
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