[cdi-dev] CDI 2.0 is (nearly) over, let's start discussion on CDI 2.1

Werner Keil werner.keil at gmail.com
Fri Jan 20 08:06:00 EST 2017 

Yes, thanks Antoine for one of the more active Java EE JSRs in recent
months.

Hopefully CDI 2.0 will soon release a Public Review, like well-deserved
Spec Lead Winner Dimtry did with his 2nd JSON JSR now:
https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/pr/jsr374/index.html
(some of the Apache-inspired ideas were also included, but don't expect
Johnzon to work with JSR-374 still built against JDK6 either, it likely
must be based on Java SE 8;-)

We may see Java EE 8 with a somewhat smaller scope and content (e.g. mostly
"Microprofile" related stuff like JSON-B 1.0, JSON-P 1.1, JAX-RS 2.1 and as
it looks like CDI 2.0, Servlet 4 or JSF 2.3, not sure about Bean Validation
2.0, depends on its ability to catch-up) but I am very confident, Java EE 8
will be feature-complete no later than JavaOne and we should see a Final at
least a year from now. Like prior ones they will keep it time-boxed, among
the reasons why Dmitry focusses on his 2 JSRs and won't take the trouble of
a config one till early 2018. So it can be added to Java EE 9 (or 8.1;-)

Werner


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> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI 2.0 is (nearly) over,        let's start
>         discussion on CDI 2.1
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> Yes, thanks to Antoine for leading this great piece of work! It was so
> enjoyable to work with you all! Wonderful journey!
>
> Many thanks,
> Emily
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> From:   Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>
> To:     Sabot-Durand Antoine <antoine at sabot-durand.net>
> Cc:     cdi-dev <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> Date:   19/01/2017 09:32
> Subject:        Re: [cdi-dev] CDI 2.0 is (nearly) over, let's start
> discussion on CDI 2.1
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> And also thanks to you, Antoine, for pushing this specification forward.
>
> I think CDI-2.0 will be a corner stones of any upcoming JavaEE 8 release
> (whenever this will be).
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
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> > Am 17.01.2017 um 16:09 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
> <antoine at sabot-durand.net>:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Release of CDI 2.0 is around the corner and I'd like to thank all of you
> for your help on this long adventure.
> >
> > Next CDI episode (or season) is also getting closer. We plan to continue
> our effort on CDI with a new version (probably CDI 2.1).
> >
> > This version try to focus on this main topic:
> > - Java EE 8 alignment
> > - MicroProfile enhancement
> > - Java 9 and Jigsaw support (java 8 will always be the minimum java
> version support)
> > - ...
> >
> > We also have a list of ticket that we postponed for CDI 2.1:
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-679?filter=12328671
> >
> > If you have other ideas, suggestion, wishes. Please feel free to share
> them here so that we can discuss their integration on the coming JSR
> proposal.
> >
> >
> > Antoine
> >
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> From: John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] DeltaSpike not compiling with CDI 2.0/Weld 3
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> Matej,
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>
> Ok, so now I understand better what you were trying to say in your email.
> Some context may have helped, e.g. "hey guys when compiling with Java 6 the
> compiler ignores the default flag on an interface and expects it to be
> implemented .. therefore blah blah blah..."
>
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> I think I can push up a fix.   Tks.
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> John
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> ________________________________
> From: Matej Novotny <manovotn at redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 5:04 AM
> To: John Ament
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> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] DeltaSpike not compiling with CDI 2.0/Weld 3
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> Bad link, sorry, here is a permanent one
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0cb489f620990037c9eaf16400dd06
> de7e5a979f8c78c046ab6ff3c1@%3Cdev.deltaspike.apache.org%3E
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn at redhat.com>
> > To: "John Ament" <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
> > Cc: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:01:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] DeltaSpike not compiling with CDI 2.0/Weld 3
> >
> > Hi John
> >
> > It is a known "issue" which I even sent an email about to DS mailing
> list.
> >
> > The cause is that DS compiles against Java 6 and CDI 2.0 adds a bunch of
> > *default* methods which will then not be recognized.
> > This in the end means that some DS classes (implementing interfaces from
> CDI
> > where such methods were addded) cannot be compiled as implementation
> will be
> > missing.
> >
> > The easiest solution is to compile with --source=1.8 and --target=1.8
> >
> > Here is the link to the email conversation I originally sent -
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@deltaspike.apache.org:2016-12
> >
> > Regards
> > Matej
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Ament" <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
> > > To: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:50:45 AM
> > > Subject: [cdi-dev] DeltaSpike not compiling with CDI 2.0/Weld 3
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just as a heads up, not sure if we knew this or not, but presently
> > > DeltaSpike
> > > does not compile with CDI 2 on the classpath. DS ships with a number of
> > > implementations of Annotated within. Was getAnnotations intended to be
> a
> > > default method?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
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