<div dir="ltr">Mark might know in more detail, he brought it up.<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">As both EC and EE (6-8) JSR Member I certainly have a lot to do with this, but neither is responsible for details of product certification;-)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri">Werner</span></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri"></span><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com" target="_blank">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">servlet spec requirement is only for distributed systems AFAIK == not<br>
required in most of instances.<br>
tomee supports both and is aligned on tomcat for all tomee flavors and<br>
is serialization-less in openejb flavors<br>
<br>
That said this is not a certification question but a usage question<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
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</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">2015-02-03 10:59 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <<a href="mailto:werner.keil@gmail.com">werner.keil@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> What about TomEE?<br>
> After all it's Java EE 6 certified:<br>
> <a href="http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/overview/compatibility-jsp-136984.html" target="_blank">http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/overview/compatibility-jsp-136984.html</a><br>
><br>
> So as Mark mentioned briefly, there is a requirement by the Servlet spec, so<br>
> I assume it is either always on or at least on by default (otherwise a TomEE<br>
> "tweaked" like that would no longer be Java EE compliant;-)<br>
><br>
> Tomcat itself was never certified.<br>
><br>
> Werner<br>
><br>
><br>
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>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Clarify scopes and serialization<br>
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>> in a standard tomcat yes but not in most of embedded ones...and that's<br>
>> not the point anyway<br>
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>> 2015-02-02 16:50 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <<a href="mailto:struberg@yahoo.de">struberg@yahoo.de</a>>:<br>
>> > but you HAVE to manually switch it off. By _default_ the serialization<br>
>> > is on...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > LieGrue,<br>
>> > strub<br>
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>> >> On Monday, 2 February 2015, 16:42, Romain Manni-Bucau<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > @Mark: that's not true. 1) you can switch it off + I mainly spoke of<br>
>> >> embedded case where it is true in 80% of cases<br>
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>> >> 2015-02-02 16:38 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <<a href="mailto:struberg@yahoo.de">struberg@yahoo.de</a>>:<br>
>> >>> Romain, that's not true. Tomcat by default ALWAYS serializes the<br>
>> >> session at shutdown! Even if you don't have a cluster set up. This is<br>
>> >> also<br>
>> >> required by the Servlets spec...<br>
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