<div dir="ltr"><div>It's all French, but I suppose the meeting is today not tomorrow?</div><div><br></div><div>As mentioned, I can't use IRC in the office, and there's an overlap with JSR 364 (phone call works as long as it's not an international line) so I won't be able to join this week I'm afraid.</div><div><br></div><div>If Europe also gets to Daylight Saving, the other call may be later, then I could probably attend both (from home;-)</div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri">Werner</span></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri"></span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:06 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cdi-dev-request@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">cdi-dev-request@lists.jboss.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">Send cdi-dev mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:05:40 +0100<br>
From: Martin Kouba <<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI SE Google Doc Updated<br>
To: "John D. Ament" <<a href="mailto:john.d.ament@gmail.com">john.d.ament@gmail.com</a>>, Jozef Hartinger<br>
<<a href="mailto:jharting@redhat.com">jharting@redhat.com</a>>, Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>><br>
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Dne 17.3.2015 v 10:49 John D. Ament napsal(a):<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:50 AM Martin Kouba <<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> It's ok to have the same default bean discovery mode in Java SE.<br>
> However, I think there is no easy way to scan the classpath and "detect"<br>
> bean archives without beans.xml, i.e. implicit bean archives without the<br>
> descriptor.<br>
><br>
><br>
> You should be able to read java.class.path to determine the possible<br>
> archives. Then use the URL of the class itself to find which JAR it<br>
> came from.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure this will cover all use-cases (Web Start, extension<br>
classes, ...). Moreover, elements of the class are platform-specific. So<br>
it wouldn't be trivial to parse it.<br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
> That's the reason why bean archives without beans.xml are not supported<br>
> in Weld SE.<br>
><br>
> If anyone knows how to implement this properly, speak out.<br>
><br>
> Martin<br>
><br>
> Dne 17.3.2015 v 07:22 Jozef Hartinger napsal(a):<br>
> ><br>
> > On 03/16/2015 05:45 PM, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> Le 16 mars 2015 ? 11:02, Jozef Hartinger <<a href="mailto:jharting@redhat.com">jharting@redhat.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jharting@redhat.com">jharting@redhat.com</a>><br>
> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jharting@redhat.com">jharting@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jharting@redhat.com">jharting@redhat.com</a>>>> a<br>
> ?crit :<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Btw was there any further discussion about the bean discovery<br>
> mode in SE<br>
> >>><br>
> >><br>
> >> For the time being we decided to have the same discovery mode in SE<br>
> >> (default to Annotated). If someone has a good reason to change the<br>
> >> default mode in SE and/or add a new discovery mode, I?d be glad to<br>
> >> hear about it.<br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://lists.jboss.org/__pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/__006334.html" target="_blank">http://lists.jboss.org/__pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/__006334.html</a><br>
> <<a href="http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/006334.html" target="_blank">http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/006334.html</a>><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>> On 03/16/2015 10:45 AM, Jozef Hartinger wrote:<br>
> >>>> The CDIProvider serves as a kind of SPI for CDI's static<br>
> methods to<br>
> >>>> be able to call into the implementation. I don't think reusing it<br>
> >>>> also as a user-facing code is a good idea. What people<br>
> suggesting to<br>
> >>>> reuse CDIProvider had in mind, I think, was to reuse it as the SPI<br>
> >>>> for talking to the CDI implementation instead. That way, the<br>
> >>>> initialize() static method of<br>
> CDIContainer/StartedCDI/__whatever we<br>
> >>>> call it can use CDIProvider internally to actually start the<br>
> container.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> In addition, the current proposal does not make it possible to<br>
> >>>> implement parallel container instances.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Jozef<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On 03/15/2015 05:03 PM, John D. Ament wrote:<br>
> >>>>> HI all,<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Apologies for being a week late on getting this doc together. I<br>
> >>>>> had some personal issues pop up after my leg came out of its cast<br>
> >>>>> that consumed most of my week last week.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Anywho, I've updated the doc with a summary of what was discussed<br>
> >>>>> with CDI SE bootstrap support. You can find that here:<br>
> >>>>><br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1LgsGT-__AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-__wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1LgsGT-__AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-__wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LgsGT-AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LgsGT-AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing</a>><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> There are two minor changes that I made from where we last<br>
> >>>>> discussed, as when I was putting together code I found some gaps<br>
> >>>>> and figured it best to fix them here than later.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> 1. CDIProvider does not implement AutoCloseable. Since CDI class<br>
> >>>>> maintains a reference to the provider, implementing AutoCloseable<br>
> >>>>> was not adding anything.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> 2. I added a method boolean isInitialized() so that the<br>
> caller can<br>
> >>>>> know if they need to start the container (or if it's already<br>
> running).<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Locally, I've also modified the CDI.current() method to use<br>
> >>>>> getCDIProvider() instead of internally finding the provider since<br>
> >>>>> we now have a getter.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> One thing I'd like to get feedback on is if calling<br>
> >>>>> initialize/shutdown in a container should throw<br>
> >>>>> IllegalStateException, or probably better to throw<br>
> >>>>> UnsupportedOperationException when called in EE containers.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Let me know your thoughts.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> John<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>><br>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:06:12 +0000<br>
From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>><br>
Subject: [cdi-dev] Invitation: CDI weekly meeting - Toutes les<br>
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