<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">You can also check the diff in the pull request : <a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/241/files" class="">https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/241/files</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 16 avr. 2015 à 09:27, Antonio Goncalves <<a href="mailto:antonio.goncalves@gmail.com" class="">antonio.goncalves@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Reading my emails upside down, just found the link : <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2898173/cdi-spec.html" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2898173/cdi-spec.html</a><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Antonio</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Antonio Goncalves <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:antonio.goncalves@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">antonio.goncalves@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Antoine, I've lost track of this topic. Is the document somewhere ? Can we easily see the diffs ? <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Managed Beans are already confusing.... turning it to "bean" can be even more confusing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Antonio</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Pete Muir <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com" target="_blank" class="">pmuir@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br class="">
> On 15 Apr 2015, at 13:31, Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net" target="_blank" class="">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> Hi all,<br class="">
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> Rethinking of this task and reading the feedback on this, I really think we should go step by step on this splitting.<br class="">
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> What I have produced here is a full extraction of EJB in the spec to put it in EE part.<br class="">
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</span>Yes, this is a great start.<br class="">
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> There are still Java EE references in core with EL, JSF, Servlet.<br class="">
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</span>I’m least worried about EL, most about JSF and Serlet.<br class="">
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> The more problematic part is the Contexts chapter: hard to remove servlet ref without rewriting all...<br class="">
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> And yes, I did some rewording that could be no very nice.<br class="">
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> In some places I replaces "Managed Beans or Session Beans" by the generic term "bean”.<br class="">
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</span>This is definitely not ok, as you expanded the scope of the sentence to include built-in beans, producer methods, producer fields, and custom beans. I would suggest providing list of these changes, so we can review each one.<br class="">
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> Java EE component was replaced by component (yes, I'm not sure it is very meaningful)<br class="">
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</span>I also think this is problematic. A Java EE component is a specific thing. I would suggest providing list of these changes, so we can review each one.<br class="">
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> In the EE part, I added changed all "session bean" occurrences by "EJB session bean”.<br class="">
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</span>Ok, I don’t think this is a problem.<br class="">
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> The step I see are:<br class="">
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> 0) Validate that we're all ok with the principle of splitting<br class="">
> 1) validate that all EJB references are removed from core<br class="">
> 2) Correct bad terminology that I introduced<br class="">
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> And then we should continue the splitting by rewriting the contexts chapter and EL references in Core.<br class="">
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> Antoine<br class="">
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