[dna-dev] Non-XA compliant resource participation in distributed transactions

Randall Hauch rhauch at redhat.com
Wed May 14 17:28:24 EDT 2008


I agree that what you are suggesting is still transactional (except  
for the last source, which is not transactional).  But we will likely  
need to supporting several non-XA sources (e.g., file systems,  
applications, etc.) within an XA system.  And, if we know the  
individual changes to each node for each source, we shouldn't we also  
be able to use compensating transactions to "rollback" changes to the  
non-XA system?

I think there's value to supporting both.  I just think the odds of  
having more than one non-XA source is pretty high.

On May 14, 2008, at 4:22 PM, John P. A. Verhaeg wrote:

> The big difference here seems to be the exposure of the updates  
> before the distributed transaction is committed.  What I'm  
> suggesting is still XA-compliant, while compensating transactions  
> are not.
>
> Randall Hauch wrote:
>> This is the behavior allowed by JBoss Transactions (Arjuna), and it  
>> seems useful.  However, I wonder if we can do compensating  
>> transactions, is there still an advantage to supporting n-1 XA plus  
>> 1 non-XA?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> On May 14, 2008, at 4:10 PM, John P. A. Verhaeg wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like we ought to strive to support n-1 XA resources for  
>>> distributed transactions, allowing for the last participant in a  
>>> transaction (thus, this participants updates can't be done in  
>>> parallel with the other resources) to not support XA transactions,  
>>> but still participate in a distributed transaction with other XA- 
>>> compliant resources.  Unlike compensating transactions, the non-XA  
>>> participant would appear transactional and none of the updates  
>>> would be visible until the entire transaction was complete.  It  
>>> seems like this could open up many more possible configurations  
>>> for customers.
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