[forge-dev] Food for thought: Forge scaffolding is not 'continuous'

[Lincoln Baxter, III]

This is only an issue for the "current" or "picked up" resource, and only
because of the way that JavaResources are implemented. This is an easy fix.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen <
max.andersen at redhat.com> wrote:

> Lincoln, when/how often does Forge rebuild its model of the world ?
>
> If it keeps state then jboss tools would need to start telling it when
> resources changes since otherwise this situation seem to be very easy to end
> up in.
> (that the actual files are changed on disk and forge wasn't used to do it)
>
> /max
>
> On Oct 24, 2011, at 17:03, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
>
> > This is in the pipeline, but not there yet. Mostly I think the feature
> you are referring to is for communicating file changes *to* JBoss tools.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Rodney Russ <rruss at redhat.com> wrote:
> > Isn't there already a mechanism for recognizing changes for the
> integration with JBoss Tools?  Or is that just one way?
> >
> > ----- "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com>
> > > To: "forge-dev List" <forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:28:25 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
> Mountain
> > > Subject: Re: [forge-dev] Food for thought: Seam Forge scaffolding is
> not 'continuous'
> > >
> > > This is possibly because if you don't "reload" the entity after making
> > > changes in an external editor, Forge doesn't know the file has
> > > changed, and rewrites the same contents... probably something to fix.
> > >
> > > That's my guess as to what they are referring to. Good point though.
> > >
> > > ~Lincoln
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Jason Porter <
> > > lightguard.jp at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm a little confused by this thinking. Forge will work with whatever
> > > you have there. Generated or not. It isn't going to overwrite anything
> > > you put in there, maybe they were using an old version?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 23, 2011, at 22:50, Richard Kennard <
> > > richard at kennardconsulting.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > There's a nice looking presentation up at...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.slideshare.net/jbaruch/pure-java-rad-and-scaffolding-tools-race
> > > >
> > > > ...that slightly 'dings' Seam Forge for not being 'continuous'
> > > (slide 43). I asked the authors what they meant by this. They said:
> > > >
> > > > "The reason we stated SeamForge scaffolding as one-time is not
> > > because of Metawidget, but because of the fact that generated code
> > > inside the entities is
> > > > not separated from user-created one. e.g. - I generated Person
> > > entity, then changed stuff and added some stuff to it, and SeamForge's
> > > entities editing
> > > > feature is not usable for me anymore (Metawidget's forms rendering
> > > will still work, of course). Just for the contrast, Spring Roo
> > > separated the
> > > > user-generated content from auto-generated content by using
> > > Inter-type declarations. I can edit my entities the way I like and Roo
> > > can mess with its ITDs
> > > > the way it likes"
> > > >
> > > > Just some food for thought?
> > > >
> > > > Richard.
> > > >
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