[forge-dev] JBoss and WebLogic
Richard Kennard
richard at kennardconsulting.com
Tue Aug 7 19:04:27 EDT 2012
Luca,
I guess we need to weigh the strengths/weaknesses of each option:
1) It sounds risky to ignore it. However, the advantage of this approach is it's very close to what the 'proper' approach should be (i.e. after JSF 2.2,
you'll simply replace @ManagedBean with @FacesConverter and it should work)
2) Not sure how you would do this, at least without Hibernate-specific APIs. For example, you could perhaps make use of a StatelessSession?
3) It's more than two lines, though. It involved declaring getAsObject/getAsString inside the top-level class, and then calling back into that? So maybe we
could simplify that? For example:
* I don't think getAsString needs to call back into the top-level class (it doesn't need the EntityManager)
* it may look cleaner if the top-level class just had a (protected?) method getEntityManager that the Converter could call, rather than redefining the
whole of getAsObject
* perhaps it would be possible to get the EntityManager directly from the session, or via JNDI?
I think we have thoroughly explored 1, and understand its shortcomings. Maybe you could try refining 3 further and then we can decide which we like best?
Regards,
Richard.
On 8/08/2012 12:40 AM, Luca Masini wrote:
> I did some simple experiments using entityManager.getDelegate() and these are what I observed:
> 1) The Hibernate Session backing the EntityManager for the SessionBean is always the same for the current session of the user
> 2) The Hibernate Session injected into the ManagedBean is always a new Session, of course different from that in use by the container EJB
>
> Now we can choose to:
>
> 1) Ignore this !!
> 2) Don't ignore and try to figure out if this way we can find different object using the find method
> 3) Use the SessionContext to point to the current Hibernate Session of the Stateful EJB (what I proposed, but we are discussing about its complexity)
>
> In my opinion adding two lines of code to the current template to inject the SessionContext and then get the business Interface is comparable to that of
> writing a new managed bean and inject in it a different EntityManager.
>
> What do you think ?
>
>
> 2012/8/7 Richard Kennard <richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>
>
> No, that's what I meant. But I guess JBoss AS messes up :(
>
> What did you decide about if it's injecting 'the same Hibernate Session'?
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard.
>
> On 7/08/2012 6:34 PM, Luca Masini wrote:
> > I yet tried this and it works with WLS 12c, but then on JBoss AS it starts thinking that the Converter interface is also the EJB Local interface
> and the
> > JSF layer is unable to find any business method of the no-interface view.
> >
> > Or do you mean something else ?
> >
> > 2012/8/7 Richard Kennard <richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>
> >
> > Luca,
> >
> > Yes I agree, we are mixing sessions here. I was hoping the Converter was doing such a 'lightweight' operation that we'd get away with it.
> >
> > But it would be great if we could avoid that complication. It appears that if you use @ManagedBean you can do all injections as usual. So that may
> > give you
> > some options. For example, what if the top-level class was itself the converter, so it was a @ManagedBean as well as a @Named? Does it then
> work to do...
> >
> > ... converter="#{groupBean}"
> >
> > ...and therefore reuse the same @PersistenceContext?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> > On 7/08/2012 5:45 PM, Luca Masini wrote:
> > > Thank you for the updated, I tested it on JBoss AS 7.1.1 and WebLogic 12c and it works great !!
> > >
> > > I'll take time today to try to TomEE too, but I wanted to answer to you before it's too late on your timezone :)
> > >
> > > But I would like to discuss one implementation choice. In the ManagedBean you inject the entityManager using the @PersistenceContext annotation.
> > >
> > > We need to investigate if this is the same session of the Stateful EJB that is backing the JSF page, otherwise we can have two session and so
> diffent
> > > view of the same DB data.
> > >
> > > In fact using an extended persistence context on the Stateful EJB has many advantages but raise the bar on difficulty of such simple things.
> > >
> > > What do you think ?? Now I'm doing some experiments to understand if that ManagedBean who is Dependent has the same Conversation scope of the
> Stateful
> > > and in case if Weld inject the same Hibernate Session.
> > >
> > > Hope to hear your though soon.
> > >
> > > Ciao.
> > >
> > > 2012/8/7 Richard Kennard <richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
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> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>>
> > >
> > > Luca,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time and patience in working through this with me. I appreciate your enthusiasm and professionalism.
> > >
> > > I took a look at your sample Test Case. My apologies. The example I linked to was using a runtime version of Metawidget, not a static
> version.
> > I had
> > > underestimated the difference that would make. It seems you need to use an explicit id (eg. @FacesConverter("groupConverter") and
> > <h:selectOneMenu ...
> > > converter="groupConverter">). Otherwise JSF cannot automatically determine the variable's type (because we are temporarily storing it in
> > > #{requestScope[...]}).
> > >
> > > However, even this does work 100%. It adds the group but, before you click Save, it is unable to display the group name.
> > >
> > > So now I am coming around to your idea!
> > >
> > > However I'd still like to simplify things as much as possible, because this is actually a bug scheduled to be fixed in JSF 2.2
> > > (http://java.net/jira/browse/JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-763). I have experimented and come up with something a little quirky but not too bad
> > (in my
> > > opinion). Sent to your other e-mail address.
> > >
> > > Please let me know if it works for you, and any improvements you think we could make.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Richard.
> > >
> > > On 6/08/2012 8:39 PM, Luca Masini wrote:
> > > > Great to hear this for me, this philosophy is one of the main reason because I love forge !!
> > > >
> > > > But I also need, on my side, to make it works under WebLogic and TomEE, so we need a solution to this problem.
> > > >
> > > > I created and sent you a test case (forgive the package name, I was in a hurry !!), you can reproduce the problem this way:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Create a group
> > > > 2) Go into the Account creation form and try to associate a group to the Account
> > > >
> > > > The problem is recreated.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your invaluable support.
> > > >
> > > > L.
> > > >
> > > > 2012/8/6 Richard Kennard <richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
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> > > >
> > > > Luca,
> > > >
> > > > > factory that hide that complexity
> > > >
> > > > One of the main challenges we have is that there *is* nowhere to 'hide that complexity'. Everything we generate is part of user's final
> > > project. They
> > > > will
> > > > see it, and therefore will need to understand and maintain it. We *did* originally try creating base classes/factories, but then we are
> > essentially
> > > > creating a Forge-specific, undocumented, unsupported framework on top of EE.
> > > >
> > > > Could you please ZIP up your sample app and send it to me at richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>
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> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>>? Then I can try and
> > > > reproduce the errors you're seeing.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Richard.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/08/2012 6:56 PM, Luca Masini wrote:
> > > > > Thank you for your feedback Richard.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried your proposal and it breaks something else because the annotated class is used everywhere to convert the POJO, and on the
> log I
> > can find
> > > > this line:
> > > > >
> > > > > 10:45:46,485 INFO [javax.enterprise.resource.webcontainer.jsf.renderkit] (http--127.0.0.1-8080-2) WARNING: FacesMessage(s) have been
> > > enqueued, but may
> > > > > not have been displayed.
> > > > > sourceId=create:accountBeanAccountGroupsSelect[severity=(ERROR 2), summary=(create:accountBeanAccountGroupsSelect: Validation Error:
> > Value is not
> > > > valid),
> > > > > detail=(create:accountBeanAccountGroupsSelect: Validation Error: Value is not valid)]
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding the solution I proposed, I agree that generated code must be simple, but I really can't figure another way to inject an
> extended
> > > persistence
> > > > > context inside a client object.
> > > > >
> > > > > In case we factor out the converter and write an util class with a factory that hide that complexity.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/8/6 Richard Kennard <richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
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> > > > >
> > > > > Luca,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your time and help debugging this. I think we need to proceed with caution.
> > > > >
> > > > > We're basically talking about hacks to work around bugs in the app server/shortcomings in the EE spec. The problem is these
> hacks are
> > > going to get
> > > > > re-generated for every domain entity (potentially dozens of times). It's critical we try to keep our generated code as clean as
> > possible. In
> > > > > particular, we
> > > > > must keep the 'semantic complexity' low.
> > > > >
> > > > > The solution you're suggesting (injecting a SessionContext, taking EJBObject using getBusinessInterface etc) sounds like a lot of
> > 'semantic
> > > > > complexity' for
> > > > > new users to understand?
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really important we try to find the cleanest approach. We tried/rejected a lot of variations when developing the current
> code.
> > > Here's one
> > > > that's not
> > > > > quite as nice as the current one, but may work properly across TomEE/Weblogic/JBoss. Could you try it for me?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Remove all references in the generated Facelets code to: converter="#{foo.converter}"
> > > > > 2. Remove the 'getConverter()' method inside each xxxBean and replace with a static inner class that looks like:
> > > > >
> > > > > @FacesConverter( forClass = xxx.class )
> > > > > public static class xxxConverter
> > > > > implements Converter {
> > > > >
> > > > > @Override
> > > > > public Object getAsObject( FacesContext context, UIComponent component, String value ) {
> > > > >
> > > > > // EntityManager injection not reliable on all platforms
> > > > >
> > > > > xxx entity = new xxx();
> > > > > entity.setId( Long.valueOf( value ) );
> > > > > return entity;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > @Override
> > > > > public String getAsString( FacesContext context, UIComponent component, Object value ) {
> > > > >
> > > > > ...
> > > > > }
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a complete example:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/metawidget/metawidget/blob/master/integration-tests/faces/forge/src/main/java/com/test/view/PersonBean.java
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/08/2012 9:17 PM, Luca Masini wrote:
> > > > > > The fact is that we have an extended persistente unit bound to the stateful ejb, so can't be injected or looked up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've found a solution working on my three target App Server (TomEE, Weblogic, JBoss).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Inject a SessionContext and take the EJBObject using the getBusinessInterface method.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For some strange reason SessionContext and his Ejb have different lifecycle so we need to take it before it is returned to the
> > jsf client.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This way it works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Il giorno venerdì 3 agosto 2012, Richard Kennard ha scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, you could try that. The history to this decision was:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. The Converter needs to use an EntityManager to load the entity
> > > > > > 2. For some reason you cannot (yet) inject EntityManagers into FacesConverters
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I made the Converter an inner class of the xxxBean, so that it could access the bean's EntityManager. However there
> would
> > be other
> > > > > approaches, such as
> > > > > > looking up the EntityManager via JNDI or something.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/08/2012 8:15 PM, Thomas Frühbeck wrote:
> > > > > > > Did you think of separating Converter and backing bean implementation?
> > > > > > > AFAIK the backing bean _provides_ a converter e.g.: #{xxxxxBean.converter} but should not implement Converter itself?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am 03.08.2012 11:13, schrieb Luca Masini:
> > > > > > >> I'm going crazy to let the generated faces scaffolding run on both WLS and JBoss.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Infact if I let the Bean implements the Converter interface then WLS works but JBoss complaints about missing
> method, it's
> > like
> > > that the
> > > > > implemented
> > > > > > >> interface is the Local interface for the bean and no other method is found but those in the Converter interface itself.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So I remove the interface and everything work without the getConverter method, getAsObject and getAsString are method of
> > the now
> > > > interface bean.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On the counter side WLS is unable to call methods from the EL into faces files that are not part of the Converter
> interface.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So I'm in a deadlock. I'm unable to let it works on both the Java EE 6 server. I'm sure that a solution exist, but
> whichi ?
> > > > > > >>
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