[forge-dev] forge list-commands

[Lincoln Baxter, III]

Yeah, we're moving that up to 1.x :)

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Ivan St. Ivanov <ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think that the functionality that the students requested is exactly the
> stuff like 'hint in Roo' that we wanted to implement in 2.0.
>
> Cheers!
> Ivan
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <
> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah we can try to do that :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Burr Sutter <bsutter at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually that would be a 2.x release if commands (therefore scripts) are
>>> changing :-)
>>>
>>> And that would mean JBDS 6 as the "support vehicle"
>>>
>>> Is it possible to keep the older command syntax in place while pushing
>>> the new "API" instead? Allow for a "backward compatibility layer"?
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Burr,
>>>
>>> Awesome feedback as always. Definitely please file JIRAs for these and
>>> put them under the "Usability" component; this would be a huge help. Thanks
>>> very much!
>>>
>>> We had a good meeting at JBW and discussed many of these issues, so
>>> hopefully we will have some good changes coming for you soon. One thing we
>>> need to consider, though, is that changing commands and the names of
>>> commands may technically be a breakage of API compatibility with some
>>> scripts, so we might need to go up to a 1.1.x release to address this.
>>>
>>> ~Lincoln
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Burr Sutter <bsutter at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Going through my hastily hand written notes from that day...
>>>>
>>>> while "inside" the entity command, Ctrl-C does not work - user had to
>>>> stop forge (red button) and start up again.
>>>>
>>>> I can jira these things if needed.
>>>>
>>>> this ctrl-c one is an issue with the eclipse integration - just like in
>>>> the written tutorial, we promote only the eclipse-based version of forge so
>>>> I have not tried the pure command line version.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Last Friday, while in Boston, we ran a few dozen people through our
>>>> "Getting Started Tutorial" - a hands-on lab
>>>> http://www.jboss.org/jdf/examples/ticket-monster/tutorial/Introduction/
>>>>
>>>> I made several notes on "gotchas" that students struggled with and one
>>>> of them was forge's "list-commands".
>>>>
>>>> In the tutorial, we instruct the student to use the "entity" command
>>>> and one student said "hey, this list-commands is broken, entity is not
>>>> listed".
>>>>
>>>> and my immediate response was "yes, list-commands rarely tells me what
>>>> I want" and the students response was "then how do I know what Forge offers
>>>> me" and my response was "you have to read a document, like this tutorial we
>>>> provided".
>>>>
>>>> The light-bulb turns on - we must have a usability problem  :-)
>>>>
>>>> At this time, People mostly wish to use Forge to:
>>>> - new project
>>>> - new entity (with bean validations)
>>>> - rest endpoints
>>>> - jsf scaffolding
>>>> - reverse engineer a database
>>>>
>>>> So, we need a better list-commands and better docs that "list out the
>>>> commands".   Based on current "docs", Forge only does a few things -
>>>> https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/FORGE/Samples  :-)
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