[forge-dev] public maven Repo for Oracle artifacts

Max Rydahl Andersen max.andersen at redhat.com
Fri Sep 7 04:02:58 EDT 2012 

yes, if the plugins them self or download page doesn't contain license info. 

/max

On 07 Sep 2012, at 09:44, Luca Masini <luca.masini.mailing.list at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can I do something for the license ?? Should I ask them to Oracle ??
> 
> 2012/9/6 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> 
> On 06 Sep 2012, at 12:12, Luca Masini <luca.masini.mailing.list at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Max, I called the support this morning, and I asked them why is not yet on a public Maven repo and the answer is that they are not interested in that.
> 
> They are not interested in that but they are ok it happens ? funky ;)
> 
> > They also told me that their answers are official Oracle's answers, so I think we can ask the central repo to host those artifacts.
> 
> still need to find the right/relevant license though.
> 
> > Do you know how to contact them ?? I think that someone of the forge team yet did something regarding hosting of forge on repo1, am I right ??
> 
> Make sure requirements listed at http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-central-repository-upload.html can be fullfilled (or document why they can't)
> 
> I would ping Jason from Sonatype to hear how similar (if any) case be handled. But would like to get that exact license identified before trying to.
> 
> /max
> 
> >
> > 2012/9/6 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> > what is their license for these plugins ? I haven't been able to find anything clear on this matter.
> >
> > we can't put them in jboss repo if not free to distribute.
> >
> > maven central might host them if we can convince them this support correspondance is sufficient proof.
> >
> > Maybe ask them why they haven't published these jars into Maven Central them self ?
> >
> > /max
> >
> > On 06 Sep 2012, at 11:32, Luca Masini <luca.masini.mailing.list at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That's official Oracle answer to my Service Request:
> > >
> > > "Hello Luca,
> > >
> > > I confirm you can use:
> > >
> > > 1) Deploy WebLogic 12c and WebLogic Maven Plugin into a public Maven repository
> > > 2)Use WebLogic for automatic unit test done by Maven for internal use or for public open source projects.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vidya"
> > >
> > > I think we can proceed, do you agree ??
> > >
> > > 2012/9/4 Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com>
> > > I would try to ask the question again, and clarify exactly what you need and what your purpose is. Also check the weblogic license. I'm betting that they don't offer it in Maven for a reason.
> > >
> > > ~Lincoln
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Luca Masini <luca.masini.mailing.list at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, I agree with you, they are not so clear.
> > >
> > > maven-weblogic-plugin simply download the artifact and the expand and unpack weblogic to make it possibile to run it.
> > >
> > > In a sense, this is an install, but of course cannot be used for a production environment.
> > >
> > > Do you think I should ask something else ??
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/9/3 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> > > I would suggest get it cleared with legal first.
> > >
> > > The answer they gave doesn't exactly sound like they understood the question IMO.
> > >
> > > "The oracle plugin" doesn't do any installs does it ?
> > >
> > > /max
> > >
> > > On 01 Sep 2012, at 21:50, "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's possible. We'd need to talk to Paul Gier about that.
> > > >
> > > > ~Lincoln
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:58 PM, <ggastald at redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > Can't we just add it to the 3rd party repos in our nexus ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 08/31/2012 04:56 PM, Luca Masini wrote:
> > > >> I said the same !!
> > > >>
> > > >> Do you think we can find a public maven repo ?
> > > >>
> > > >> 2012/8/31 Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com>
> > > >> Wow.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Luca Masini <luca.masini.mailing.list at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> That's the question:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Can we Distribute WebLogic 12c and weblogic-maven-plugin on a public Maven Repository"
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2012/8/31 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> > > >> > OMG, in your opinion this is a yes or a no ??
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Hello Luca,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If the oracle-maven plugin does the install in a distributed environment without any human intervention then it is legitimate to do it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Vidya"
> > > >>
> > > >> What was the exact question to them ?
> > > >>
> > > >> did it say "can we publish these jars to a public location making it available to opensource and close sourced projects build systems" ?
> > > >>
> > > >> /max
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2012/8/27 Luca Masini <luca.masini.mailing.list at gmail.com>
> > > >> > That's the Service Request:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > SR 3-6125341401
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I'll let you know what Oracle thinks about that.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I know that they don't distribute JDBC drivers, but I hope that now
> > > >> > some Sun DNA is inside their commercial blood !!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ciao.
> > > >> > L.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2012/8/27 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>:
> > > >> > > since oracle's license for jdbc driver (at least historically) has a clause about giving oracle information about yearly revenue
> > > >> > > if you wanted to distribute the driver on its own I would be surprised.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > But do please keep us uptodate on what they respond :)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > /max
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:28, Luca Masini <luca.masini.mailing.list at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Yes, but I opened a SR to Oracle to know if we can.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> 2012/8/20 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>:
> > > >> > >>> They probably do not upload these to the public because their license doesn't allow it to.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Have you chekked their license?
> > > >> > >>> /max
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> On 18 Aug 2012, at 09:41, Luca Masini <luca.masini at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>> Hi guys, I bother you also on the mailing list. I need a repository
> > > >> > >>>> where I can upload two artifacts:
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> 1) WebLogic 12c
> > > >> > >>>> 2) weblogic-maven-plugin
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> These are officially supported by Oracle, but they don't upload in any
> > > >> > >>>> repository.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> I got them in my local Nexus but it is not visible outside my Intranet.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Any suggestion ?
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> I need them to run test on WLS.
> > > >> > >>>>
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