[hibernate-dev] solidDB Hibernate dialect ?

Niall DOWNEY niall.downey at ie.ibm.com
Mon Apr 19 05:16:30 EDT 2010


Hi Chris,
Your option 3 does sound interesting all right.

If putting a link on Hibernate.org could still be done and because we do
have control of including the Dialect with the solidDB JDBC driver, this
approach sounds like it would suit both yourselves and us.  Also we would
be responsible for running the TestSuite and for ensuring sufficient
quality was maintained.

Let me circulate this approach here and get back to you and Steve shortly.

Regards,

Niall

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We discussed some other ways to deal with Dialects in the past:

http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/hibernate-dev/2008-September/003323.html

I still like Option 3 -- make the Dialect available with the JDBC driver
distribution but I don't know of anyone doing this today.

-CB

On 04/16/2010 12:38 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> In terms of actually getting it included?  Well just passing the
> testsuite is of course a first step.
>
> Beyond that though I am a little leery of adding new dialects "just
> because someone contributed (dumped) it".  The reasoning is quite
> simple.  We have quite a bit of this type of "integration code" in
> Hibernate already that goes unmaintained for long spurts of time.  And
> truth be told a lot of it deals with DB2 variants and WebSphere which of
> course makes me a little even more leery here.  So for this aspect we
> would need you (or someone) to take ownership of this code.  If you
> agree to that we can discuss those particulars off list.
>
> Also realize that the contributions *must* be LGPL.  We have had issues
> with that previously with regards to IBM employees and IBM's legal teams
> from LGPL FUD.  To that end, y'all must sign a contributor agreement
> accepting the terms of LGPL and agreeing to your contributions being
> made publicly available under its terms.
>
> Also, how many Hibernate users are actually using solidDB?
>
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> On 04/16/2010 10:48 AM, Niall DOWNEY wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> thanks for the info. Is it just a case of checking out the latest Test
>> Suite code from CVS and running what are probably JUnit tests ?. Is
there
>> anything else we need to do or be aware of ?.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Niall
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>> On 04/15/2010 07:39 AM, Niall DOWNEY wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> I work for IBM and we are investigating adding our solidDB dialect to
the
>>> existing set in Hibernate. Can someone tell me how we go about this and
>> who
>>> should we talk to ?.
>>>
>>> Apologies if this is off-topic but it was suggested in the "Hibernate
>>> Users" forum that I try posting here.
>>
>> I'd start by filing a JIRA against Hibernate Core:
>>
>> http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/
>>
>> Attach your Dialect to the issue.  Run the test suite against your
>> dialect and learn what works and what doesn't.  The best thing we can do
>> for users of a Dialect is set expectations about known issues.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Chris (who has little/no say in what gets included, just trying to help)
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