[hibernate-dev] ORM, OGM and timing

Steve Ebersole steve at hibernate.org
Wed Dec 5 10:44:15 EST 2012


I am not completely understanding the question.  You don't *need* 
Hibernate 5, you could just plug in a custom QueryTranslatorFactory as 
we discussed on irc.  The discussion here was changing the standard 
QueryTranslatorFactory to use this new Antlr parser.

On Dec 5, 2012 8:46 AM, "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne at hibernate.org 
<mailto:sanne at hibernate.org>> wrote:

    Do we need Hibernate 5 to resolve those type system issues?

    If so, is there an alternative solution which wouldn't necessarily
    couple the OGM lifecycle with ORM ? (just for the time being)


    On 4 December 2012 18:19, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org
    <mailto:emmanuel at hibernate.org>> wrote:
     > Moving to dev mailing list.
     >
     > On Tue 2012-12-04 12:09, Steve Ebersole wrote:
     >> Can we have such discussions on the dev list?
     >>
     >> Anyway, that's why I said about developing the parser separately
    but in
     >> tandem and synching later.  That gives us that flexibility.
     >>
     >> Because it's not been decided that the parser change will even
    go into
     >> 5.0...
     >> On Dec 4, 2012 11:35 AM, "Emmanuel Bernard"
    <emmanuel at hibernate.org <mailto:emmanuel at hibernate.org>> wrote:
     >>
     >> > Hey guys,
     >> >
     >> > Steve and I started a discussion on how to reuse Sanne's work
    around the
     >> > new JP-QL parser. The crux of the problem is to be able to
    reuse the type
     >> > of a given node in the parser even if Hibernate ORM and
    Hibernate OGM use a
     >> > different type system. This looks doable but then the problem
    of timing
     >> > arises.
     >> >
     >> > With Davide coming onboard, and even more after BV is behind
    us, I expect
     >> > OGM to speed up significantly which means we will need to do
    fast releases.
     >> > So the question is when are we targeting Hibernate ORM 5 final
    and does
     >> > that fit Hibernate OGM's time goals.
     >> >
     >> > We have been promising query for ever now and I would hate to
    have to
     >> > delay it more than necessary.
     >> >
     >> > Thoughts?
     >> >
     >> > Emmanuel
     >> >
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