[hibernate-dev] Documentation on OGM + JBoss AS

Scott Marlow smarlow at redhat.com
Wed Nov 14 11:05:37 EST 2012

Which failure do we want to address?

1.  The integrator approach is not helping when using OGM/ORM on AS7.

2.  The earlier failure that I haven't yet seen when the place holder is 
removed and we bootstrap with 

Something else?

On 11/13/2012 09:20 AM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
> If you remove the place holder it will fail as well. Earlier actually,
> so no.
> On Tue 2012-11-13  8:20, Scott Marlow wrote:
>> Let me know if you want me to try changing the OGM code that sets
>> "---PlaceHolderDSForOGM---" to only set the datasource if its not
>> already specified.
>> For resolving why the OGM integrator being on the ORM classpath, is
>> not enough to avoid the ORM datasource lookup, I'm not sure.
>> On 11/12/2012 01:43 PM, Scott Marlow wrote:
>>> Hardy pointed me to
>>> https://github.com/hferentschik/ogm-kitchensink/blob/master/.openshift/config/modules/org/hibernate/ogm/module.xml
>>> which duplicates some other AS modules jars in the OGM module.  That is
>>> going to be specific to which version of AS is being targeted (IMO) and
>>> not something I recommend that we depend on.
>>> On 11/12/2012 12:46 PM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
>>>> Hum, yes make sure to check the pom. There has been a few changes to
>>>> some superclasses we extend. I did some changes in master for that.
>>> I was able to build OGM master against ORM 4.1.6 without getting build
>>> errors.
>>>> Emmanuel
>>>> On Mon 2012-11-12 12:00, Scott Marlow wrote:
>>>>> Does it matter which version of Hibernate ORM is used (4.1.6 is what
>>>>> we are currently using on AS master branch)?
>>>>> Which version of OGM should I try to use?  Previously, I built OGM
>>>> >from git master but I noticed that there is a beta1 available also.
>>>>> On 11/10/2012 05:41 PM, Scott Marlow wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Sanne,
>>>>>> I'm not sure why the module names didn't show for ogm/orm.
>>>>>> I'll try again with the demo app.
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> Sent from my tardis
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Sanne Grinovero [sanne at hibernate.org]
>>>>>> Received: Saturday, 10 Nov 2012, 2:56pm
>>>>>> To: Scott Marlow [smarlow at redhat.com]
>>>>>> CC: Emmanuel Bernard [emmanuel at hibernate.org]; Hibernate Dev [hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Documentation on OGM + JBoss AS
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>> we don't have that error when testing on AS 7.1.1 with the
>>>>>> kitchensink-ogm demo [1] so I'm confident the error is caused by some
>>>>>> difference in the module; indeed I remember it being tricky to put the
>>>>>> right things together: I can't test it on 7.2-SNAPSHOT now.
>>>>>> We definitely don't specify any datasource in the demo configuration,
>>>>>> but a custom module is required.
>>>>>> Side question on the stacktrace you posted: why is the version number
>>>>>> missing in the stack for Hibernate packages? Do we need to add that in
>>>>>> the manifest?
>>>>>> Sanne
>>>>>> 1 - latest version at https://github.com/hferentschik/ogm-kitchensink
>>>>>> On 9 November 2012 20:08, Scott Marlow <smarlow at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/09/2012 11:37 AM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri 2012-11-09 11:15, Scott Marlow wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/01/2012 11:12 AM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon 2012-10-01 10:51, Scott Marlow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I got further yesterday (after removing the
>>>>>>>>>>> ---PlaceHolderDSForOGM--- property from HibernateOgmPersistence).
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what the long term change is (perhaps we should only add
>>>>>>>>>>> the ---PlaceHolderDSForOGM--- for the non-container case).
>>>>>>>>>> That may have changed but this place holder was mandatory to get OGM
>>>>>>>>>> to start in some environment.
>>>>>>>>>> At least make sure that these change does not break the SE mode.
>>>>>>>>> People are still hitting the "Caused by:
>>>>>>>>> org.hibernate.service.jndi.JndiException: Unable to lookup JNDI name
>>>>>>>>> [---PlaceHolderDSForOGM---]" error.
>>>>>>>>> Since people are still hitting the ---PlaceHolderDSForOGM--- induced
>>>>>>>>> failure (on AS7), we should create a jira for addressing it.  The
>>>>>>>>> fix could be to only add ---PlaceHolderDSForOGM--- when booting in
>>>>>>>>> standalone mode but not container.
>>>>>>>> The placeholder is there because otherwise, some part of Hibernate
>>>>>>>> EntityManager's configuration bootstrap complain.
>>>>>>>> But this value should never be used because Hibernate OGM has an
>>>>>>>> integrator that overrides the ConnectionProviderInitiator with a Noop
>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>> The fact that Sergio's stacktrace shows
>>>>>>>> Caused by: org.hibernate.service.jndi.JndiException: Unable to lookup JNDI name [---PlaceHolderDSForOGM---]
>>>>>>>>            at org.hibernate.service.jndi.internal.JndiServiceImpl.locate(JndiServiceImpl.java:68)
>>>>>>>>            at org.hibernate.service.jdbc.connections.internal.DatasourceConnectionProviderImpl.configure(DatasourceConnectionProviderImpl.java:116)
>>>>>>>> is proof to me that the OgmIntegrator is not taken into account which
>>>>>>>> means that the file
>>>>>>>> META-INF/services/org.hibernate.integrator.spi.Integrator
>>>>>>>> is not seen by Hibernate ORM when it bootstraps the application which
>>>>>>>> means that Hibernate OGM's classpath is not visible where it should be.
>>>>>>> I tried adding the Hibernate OGM module to the ORM module classpath and
>>>>>>> still get the same error (http://pastie.org/5352457).
>>>>>>>> That's why I strongly suspects that this is either a JBoss modules bug
>>>>>>>> or some misconfiguration of the ogm modules.
>>>>>>>> We could try and give a better error report, open an issue for that but
>>>>>>>> at the end of the day, something is broken in the ORM-AS integration wrt
>>>>>>>> integrator and service discovery.
>>>>>>>> Emmanuel
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