[hibernate-dev] [OGM] Demarcating units of work

Gunnar Morling gunnar at hibernate.org
Thu May 7 02:38:28 EDT 2015


2015-05-07 8:12 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>:

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> On 06 May 2015, at 15:16, Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org> wrote:
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> 2015-05-06 14:19 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>:
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>> It’s an interesting idea.
>> Let me give you the reasons why I think the transaction API has merits.
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>> There is already a notion of UnitOfWork that was named Conversation in
>> Seam / CDI. But its span is potentially longer than the span of the updates
>> window. The closer notion of a UnitOfWork is an EntityManager or a Session.
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> By introducing @UnitOfWork, you forgo all the integration between
>> application frameworks and transactions. Here you offer a solution for CDI
>> but we would need one for Java EE non CDI and one for Spring and one for
>> Grails and one for…
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> The current integrations would continue to work. So e.g. EJB non-CDI would
> still use JTA as is today. I don't find it to be a big problem there, as
> it's much more under the covers (which is why it's nice to show EJBs in
> demos ;). Same for the others basically.
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> OK so you would still support essentially Hibernate Transactions with how
> we wired them with (compensation).
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Yes, right. Under the hood essentially nothing would change.


> But also add this new concept that would do exactly the same thing for
> people offended by the term transaction? Or am I misunderstanding something.
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It would be similar, but not the same. Specifically, such API would not
promise rollback capabilities or isolation from other, concurrent units of
work when e.g. doing explicit flushes.


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