[hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

Steve Ebersole steve at hibernate.org
Fri May 29 07:03:09 EDT 2015


Guys "position rather than alias usage in JDBC" is a small part of a
massive set of related changes in how we build SQL and consume the
results.  And actually it is the piece that has any compatibility impact
since it means any and all custom Types will need to be re-written.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
wrote:

> I agree as well :)
>
> Just to add a minor twist:
>  - the override to lazy from eager would be useful to Search; skipping
> fields completely as an extra bonus (something I think ORM can't do at
> all - for good reasons when it comes to end user API - but again
> something Search would benefit from and not expose to users).
>  - since I'm currently exploring the 2nd level cache keys and the
> persistence context keys again, it's getting clear (again as we
> discussed this before) to potentially use a different data structure
> to hold the persistence context.
>
> But neither is urgent, I'd prefer you to schedule things to minimize
> overall effort (maximize overall throughput over latency of any of
> these).
>
> On "position rather than alias usage in JDBC": I was looking forward
> for that as well. Wasn't it part of the 5.0 schedule? I thought it was
> done.
>
> Sanne
>
>
> On 29 May 2015 at 11:22, Hardy Ferentschik <hardy at hibernate.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:33:22AM -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> >> Anyone have any input here?  Or should I just start scheduling them how
> I
> >> want?
> >
> > I think all goals sound good. I would say schedule as you seem fit, maybe
> > with a focus of giving users something tangible asap (a bit of what
> Emmanuel
> > says).
> >
> > --Hardy
> >
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