[hibernate-issues] [Hibernate-JIRA] Commented: (HHH-3486) Include one ore more SLF4J "adapters"

[Steve Ebersole (JIRA)]

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Steve Ebersole commented on HHH-3486:
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Ceki, I think the confusing part in your first comment is that its not *just* outputting a warning message.  "Warning" implies "you might want to change this".  No, it throws exceptions and then outputs a message to the effect you said.

I must say that on the surface I completely agree that it seems very odd that having no "logging binding" on the classpath causes the entire application to fail to load.  I agree that I don't think it makes sense to use different names for the binders.  That is sort of against the whole idea here.  But like I said, making that condition an error seems over the top.  Especially for frameworks; it sort of of leaves us in a bind.

> Include one ore more SLF4J "adapters"
> -------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HHH-3486
>                 URL: http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3486
>             Project: Hibernate Core
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: build
>    Affects Versions: 3.3.0.GA, 3.3.0.SP1, 3.3.1
>            Reporter: Chris Bredesen
>            Assignee: Steve Ebersole
>
> Hibernate, as of 3.3, no longer distributes all jars needed to run the framework.  SLF4J requires the inclusion of the SLF4J library as well as either a native or a wrapped implementation.  The manual vaguely references such a need but it's never quite clear that the user must visit the SLF4J website and obtain these jars himself.  Maven users are of course unaffected since the additional SLF4J jars are published in the central repo.
> "Adapter" may be the wrong term here but I think the point has been made :)

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