[hibernate-issues] [Hibernate-JIRA] Commented: (HHH-3486) Include one ore more SLF4J "adapters"

[Sam Douglass (JIRA)]

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Sam Douglass commented on HHH-3486:
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I think the value of the new dependency would be to get Hibernate to execute without a NoClassDefFoundError "out of the box". Right now that's not possible, as far as I can tell.

You're right that most people would likely change the binding, but they'd only have to do it when they wanted to enable logging. And if the default binding were JDK logging, for example, everybody would additionally be able to get at least some kind of logging output from Hibernate "out of the box", too, which isn't possible right now either. And they'd get it without having to add another dependency (on a logging framework) since everybody has JDK logging (assuming we're all using 1.4+ by now).



> Include one ore more SLF4J "adapters"
> -------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HHH-3486
>                 URL: http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3486
>             Project: Hibernate Core
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: build
>    Affects Versions: 3.3.0.GA, 3.3.0.SP1, 3.3.1
>            Reporter: Chris Bredesen
>            Assignee: Steve Ebersole
>
> Hibernate, as of 3.3, no longer distributes all jars needed to run the framework.  SLF4J requires the inclusion of the SLF4J library as well as either a native or a wrapped implementation.  The manual vaguely references such a need but it's never quite clear that the user must visit the SLF4J website and obtain these jars himself.  Maven users are of course unaffected since the additional SLF4J jars are published in the central repo.
> "Adapter" may be the wrong term here but I think the point has been made :)

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