[infinispan-dev] Infinispan Large Scale support

david marion dlmarion at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 18 11:45:36 EDT 2011


Bela,
 
  Agreed, increasing the timeouts is probably not the way to go. However I am at the mercy of whatever Infinispan is doing. As for the notion of Infinispan being tested at 1000 nodes:
 
  Manik was quoted here: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/netsys/article.php/3864436/Red-Hat-Ramps-Up-Open-Source-Cloud-Projects.htm
  It was never denied here: http://community.jboss.org/thread/156494?tstart=0
  and I'll have to wait until I get home to dig up an email that I think I have.
 
However, I'm not assigning blame, I was under the impression that it had been tested at 1000 nodes. I just had it up at 430 nodes, but I can't reliably get it to that size when I restart it. I think the answer is that Infinispan will have to use what will scale in JGroups (remove what does not scale). Until then I will have to scale it down to a size that I can start in a reliable fashion. 
 
  Still no answer on whether ISPN-83 will be in 4.2.1.....
 
  
 
Dave Marion
 
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:30:46 +0100
> From: bban at redhat.com
> To: infinispan-dev at lists.jboss.org
> Subject: Re: [infinispan-dev] Infinispan Large Scale support
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/18/11 2:19 PM, david marion wrote:
> >
> > Bela, Manik,
> >
> > Thanks for responding. Will ISPN-83 be included in 4.2.1.FINAL? Yes, a large cluster jgroups config would be great. At this point we have taken the UDP config distributed with 4.2.0 and increased all the timeouts.
> 
> That's certainly not the way to do it ! If you post your config over on 
> the JGroups mailing list [1], I'll take a look and suggest 
> modifications. If we work on this a bit to get your cluster going, this 
> config could serve as the basis of a large cluster sample config, 
> shipped with JGroups and posted on a wiki.
> 
> 
> > It took about 30 minutes to get to 150 nodes. The cluster appears stable once its up, the problem is in the startup. Based on what I am seeing and have read in the
> >documentation, every time a node wants to join a FLUSH is sent across 
> the entire system and then a new view is created.
> 
> 
> FLUSH can not be part of a large cluster configuration; virtual 
> synchrony was never meant to scale to more than 20 or so nodes !
> 
> 
> > We are seeing nodes wait minutes to get the new view. It has been mentioned before that Infinispan was tested at 1000 nodes
> 
> 
> Where was this mentioned ? I personally have never see such a large 
> cluster... The largest cluster I know of is ca 400 nodes...
> 
> 
> 
> [1] https://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/javagroups-users
> 
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> Bela Ban
> Lead JGroups / Clustering Team
> JBoss
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