[infinispan-dev] Native Infinispan Multimap support

Sanne Grinovero sanne at infinispan.org
Mon Apr 10 07:00:14 EDT 2017


On 10 April 2017 at 11:25, Katia Aresti <karesti at redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I've moved the discussion to infinispan-designs
>
> https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan-designs/pull/3
>
> I think I put everything we said on this thread. Let me know if I forgot
> something important on the PR. Let's continue the design on Github, should
> be nicer to follow ! :)

Great idea! I often get a bit lost in long mailing list threads.

Thanks,
Sanne


>
> Cheers
>
> Katia
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Katia Aresti <karesti at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> What if we move the discussion to
>> https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan-designs ?
>>
>>
>> Katia
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Radim Vansa <rvansa at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 04/06/2017 12:15 AM, Katia Aresti wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Radim Vansa <rvansa at redhat.com
>>> > <mailto:rvansa at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     On 04/04/2017 06:40 PM, William Burns wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:45 AM Katia Aresti <karesti at redhat.com
>>> >     <mailto:karesti at redhat.com>
>>> >     > <mailto:karesti at redhat.com <mailto:karesti at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Hi all,
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     As you probably know, Will and I are working on the vert-x
>>> >     >     infinispan integration [1], where the primary goal is to make
>>> >     >     infinispan the default cluster management of vert-x. (yeah!)
>>> >     >     Vert-x needs support for an Async Multimap. Today's
>>> >     implementation
>>> >     >     is a wrapper on a normal Cache where only Cache Key's are
>>> >     used to
>>> >     >     implement the multi map [2].
>>> >     >     This is not very efficient, so after trying some other
>>> >     alternative
>>> >     >     implementations [3] that don't fully work (injection not
>>> >     working),
>>> >     >     Will and I have come to the conclusion that it might be a
>>> > good
>>> >     >     idea to start having our own native CacheMultimap. This first
>>> >     >     multimap won't support duplicate values on key's.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     As a quick start, the smallest multimap we need should
>>> > implement
>>> >     >     the following interface :
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I agree that having a very slim API to start should be better
>>> >     since we
>>> >     > know how much trouble we get into implementing a very large API
>>> > like
>>> >     > ConcurrentMap :)
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     public interface CacheMultimap<K,V> {
>>> >     >
>>> >
>>> >     I don't see anything async in this interface. If that's async,
>>> > provide
>>> >     CompletableFuture return values.
>>> >     I am also considering if we want any fire & forget variants for
>>> > these
>>> >     operations, but since we have to do retries to achieve consistency
>>> >     (and
>>> >     therefore we need some messages from owners to originator), I
>>> > wouldn't
>>> >     include them.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Today's vert-x API calls the vertx.executeBlocking(future => cache...)
>>> >
>>> > I considered the option of CompletableFuture, but for simplicity I
>>> > suggested the basic method.
>>> > Today's CacheAPI makes a difference between "put" and "putAsync".
>>> > Would you call the interface CacheMultimapAsync or CacheMultimap with
>>> > addAsyc method ?
>>>
>>> "In a perfect world, there will be no war or hunger, all APIs will be
>>> written asynchronously and bunny rabbits will skip hand-in-hand with
>>> baby lambs across sunny green meadows." (quoting Vert.x docs)
>>>
>>> While minimalistic API is a good way to start, it shouldn't contain
>>> anything we'd want to get rid of in close future. And especially since
>>> the main drive for multimaps is Vert.x which consumes asynchronous APIs
>>> (and has support for legacy synchronous APIs, the executeBlocking
>>> method), we should have the design adapted to that from the beginning.
>>>
>>> CompletableFuture is not a rocket science, and you can use the already
>>> asynchronous Infinispan internals.
>>>
>>> I don't think we should have two interfaces, I believe that single
>>> interface with async methods only is absolutely sufficient. Though I
>>> wouldn't add the *Async suffix at all there. If someone wants to execute
>>> the methods synchronously he can call .get() or .join() - just 6/7
>>> characters more.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >     >         V put(K key,V value);
>>> >     >
>>> >     > This should probably return a boolean or Void. I am leaning
>>> > towards
>>> >     > the first, but I am open either way.
>>> >
>>> >     I would rather call this "add", as vert-x does. CompletableFuture
>>> > as
>>> >     return type here will allow to easily register the handler
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -1 I prefer keeping "put" name because it is still a Map and makes
>>> > more sense to me considering the actual Cache API too. The return type
>>> > V was a transcription mistake, it should be void for me, as Will
>>> > pointed out.
>>>
>>> To me "put" is linked with overwriting the previous value, while you add
>>> to the underlying collection or create a new single-element one. But
>>> whatever, I care more about the return values :)
>>>
>>> R.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     >         Collection<V> get(K key);
>>> >     >
>>> >     >         boolean remove(K key,V value);
>>> >     >
>>> >     > We probably want a `boolean remove(K key)` method as well that
>>> >     removes
>>> >     > all values mapped to the given key.
>>> >
>>> >     What about "reset(key)"?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     >     }
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     CacheMultimapImpl will be a wrapper on a normal Cache,
>>> >     similar to [3].
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     We could add a new method in EmbeddedCacheManager.java
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     <K, V> CacheMultimap<K, V> getCacheMultimap(String cacheName,
>>> >     >     boolean createIfAbsent);
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I was thinking maybe this would exist in a separate module
>>> >     (outside of
>>> >     > core)? or class that wraps (similar to DistributedExecutor)
>>> > instead.
>>> >     > My worry is about transactions, since the entry point to that is
>>> >     > through Cache interface. The other option is we could add a
>>> >     `getCache`
>>> >     > method on the `CacheMultiMap`.
>>> >
>>> >     +1 Since the names of multimaps and maps will clash, we shouldn't
>>> > hide
>>> >     that the underlying implementation is a Cache, so I'd suggest
>>> >     something like
>>> >
>>> >     static <K, V> CacheMultimap<K, V> CacheMultimapFactory.get(Cache<K,
>>> >     Object> c) { ... }
>>> >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Implementation will create a cache as always and return a new
>>> >     >     CacheMultimapImpl(cache).
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     What do you think ? Please fell free to suggest any other
>>> >     >     alternative or idea.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Cheers
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Katia
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     [1] https://github.com/vert-x3/vertx-infinispan
>>> >     <https://github.com/vert-x3/vertx-infinispan>
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     [2]
>>> >     >
>>> >
>>> > https://github.com/vert-x3/vertx-infinispan/blob/master/src/main/java/io/vertx/ext/cluster/infinispan/impl/InfinispanAsyncMultiMap.java
>>> >
>>> > <https://github.com/vert-x3/vertx-infinispan/blob/master/src/main/java/io/vertx/ext/cluster/infinispan/impl/InfinispanAsyncMultiMap.java>
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     [3]
>>> >     https://gist.github.com/karesti/194bb998856d4a2828d83754130ed79c
>>> >     <https://gist.github.com/karesti/194bb998856d4a2828d83754130ed79c>
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