[jboss-as7-dev] Getting started application development guide - a suggestion

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

> Its not about promoting netbeans/eclipse/maven - its about somebody to be quickly able to get up to speed with JEE6 way of developing apps. Any tool that gets the user there first is what gets most acceptance - netbeans/eclipse/maven or whatever. Since I have come across various environments where maven is still not the main tool that is why I raised this issue,

Yes, I know - thats why we made it easy to install jboss tools, import the quick starts - you don't even have to use maven normally.

I want to make the quick starts directly available without downloading the AS7 quickstart zip.

Until then File > New > Web Project, select CDI and you are off using JEE6.

That is the simplest approach right now.

Not sure what else we can do before that ? 

/max

> 
> On 20/07/2011 8:48 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> I wonder if you have seen Glassfish JEE tutorial : it uses Nebeans and uses Netbeans project structure etc.
>> Yes, and these examples are tied to Netbeans - is that  a good thing ?
>> 
>> I guess it is if you want to promote netbeans ;)
>> 
>> I haven't tried for the specific quickstarts yet, but they should work equally well in netbeans and
>> intellij assuming they import maven projects properly. I find that to be a much more useful.
>> 
>> But even if we were to recreate these as "pure eclipse projects" as long as there isn't a good way to get the list of jars from AS7 distro which will be used for a project
>> nor have a bunch of people that can replicate all examples in WTP, Ant, Maven etc. I don't really see
>> how we can do this without it being alot of effort with small gains.
>> 
>> I guess we could simply import the project into jboss tools/m2eclipse and save the generated .project/.classpath/.settings
>> folder .....but still someone would have to maintain that + create a zip with all the relevant jars in it for every AS7/EAP6 update.
>> 
>> Suggestions very welcome if i'm missing something obvious ?
>> 
>> /max
>> 
>>> On 20/07/2011 5:22 PM, Max Andersen wrote:
>>>> What would you like it to say ? :)
>>>> 
>>>> Manually download all these jars from mvn repo and
>>>> Add it to the class path ?
>>>> 
>>>> Note, I'm planning to add a feature to JBoss tools that materialized a class path container so you don't have to
>>>> Use mvn after the initial import. But mvn is the best tool
>>>> Out there which allow us to have both command line
>>>> And IDE work without N explanations and duplicate projects.
>>>> 
>>>> /max (sent from my phone)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 20/07/2011, at 07.41, Vimal Kansal<vkansal at redhat.com>   wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on my consulting experience, I have found that there are still
>>>>> many places where development environments are non maven based i.e
>>>>> Eclipse minus minus m2eclipse etc. Do you think it will be worthwhile,
>>>>> having instructions in the guide for building/deploying these
>>>>> applications using WTP tools + JBoss Tools?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thx
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vimal
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> /max
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>> 
>> 
> 

/max
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