[jboss-as7-dev] packaging of demos in AS7

Tue Jul 26 10:32:01 EDT 2011

>> Right now we are making demos/examples separate downloads.
> 
> yes, that's what I'm trying to address, because I don't like it. The 
> demo is already available as part of the JBossTS download. I want it to 
> be part of the AS download. Is there a plan to allow that in the future, 
> or is the model of having separate downloads the intended long term 
> approach?

I can't speak for AS, but I can speak for JBoss Tools that we are already shipping examples
separately via its Project Examples features, similar we want to use more the notion
maven "archetypes" and hopefully even more so Seam Forge for having a good way
of getting examples that aren't hardly coupled to every project/product release.

> 
>> If it works right now we could just add it to our download page right away.
> 
> By all means link across to the JBossTS download if you like. However, 
> since community projects can't publish bug fix releases,

if your project follow that strictly then that is a reason to not make it part of the main distro.

if examples doesn't get fixed we are screwed from tooling and user side ;)

/max

> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Jonathan Halliday<jonathan.halliday at redhat.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Max
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the pointers, but I'm not sure how relevant some of your
>>> points are.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I didn't make the situation sufficiently clear. I'm not setting
>>> out to write a new quickstart for AS. I already have a demo app. It
>>> already has version control, in the JBossTS repository. It already has
>>> documentation, in the JBossTS manuals. It already has a build script.
>>> 
>>> What I'm interested in is how to inject these pre-existing assets into
>>> the AS build and hence release bundle, with the minimum of upstream
>>> changes. If the only way to do that is to fork them into the AS codebase
>>> then it just isn't going to happen.
>>> 
>>> The tooling integration I consider largely orthogonal to that and I'm
>>> happy to try to accomodate the needs of JBoss Tools if you can describe
>>> them more fully. 'importable and deployable' is a bit vague for me. I
>>> don't use JBoss Tools and have no clue what that requirement entails.
>>> Are there some guidelines on what to do (or not do) and how to test it
>>> in an automated fashion?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Jonathan.
>>> 
>>> On 07/26/2011 11:37 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>> Look at https://github.com/jbossas/quickstart
>>>> 
>>>> Has a read me with "rules"
>>>> 
>>>> notice please the:
>>>> "The quickstart should be importable into JBoss Tools and deployable there" :)
>>>> 
>>>> And if that part does not work - ping me or on jboss tools forum and we'll help explain
>>>> or see if we can make it work if some tooling limitation.
>>>> 
>>>> That rule is what makes all the quick starts (except currently osgi) directly importable into
>>>> JBoss tools and is what we will start relying on even more for next revision of JBoss Tools/JBDS
>>>> which will provide a selected set of the quick starts as "project example"/New Project wizard
>>>> to let users get started quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> /max
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:11, Jonathan Halliday wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any documentation describing how to package and include demo
>>>>> source code and instructions in AS7?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now that XTS is (almost) integrated I'm looking at how we can ship the
>>>>> demo app for it. IMO it should really be bundled with the AS rather than
>>>>> a separate download, but the source for it will remain in the TS rather
>>>>> than AS repo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, I need some way of packaging the source and instructions into maven,
>>>>> then having the AS build get them back out and unpack them into some
>>>>> suitable place. Ideally the AS build should then build and run the demo
>>>>> to ensure it works too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd also be interested to know if there are particular convestions in
>>>>> place for how demos should build. Are they e.g. using relative paths to
>>>>> reference libraries in the AS dir tree, or using maven?  What is the
>>>>> standard format for demo README files, instructions etc? plain text, html?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan.
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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