[jboss-as7-dev] Console 1.1.0 Update

[Heiko Braun]

no, it's an implication of the chosen technology. the way GWT split's the client artifact may have certain drawbacks (deliverable file size is bigger due to the number of permutations), but it actually increases the  performance for each client.

what you are asking for is actually taken care of by the GWT compiler: it split's the browser/language combinations into reasonable chunks that are used on their own. each client get's exactly what it needs an nothing more. the large file size doesn't mean each client needs to download everything of it. the decision what need to be loaded is done on the fly, client side.

but to be honest: i don't care that much about the download size. what matters more to me is still the performance and user experience of the actual web application. 10 mb less or more are ridiculously small compared to what the average internet user consumes every day.

/Ike

On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Darran Lofthouse wrote:

> Is there no alternative for us to do some form of just in time 
> processing for the languages as the resources are served?  We have 
> complete control of the HTTP server if we needed to insert something 
> additional there.
> 
> Alternatively I do see now why many companies offer different localized 
> downloads now - as an alternative could we provide alternative downloads 
> to add support for different languages to your AS installation.
> 
> Regards,
> Darran Lofthouse.
> 
> 
> On 03/30/2012 10:23 AM, Tomaz Cerar wrote:
>> The thing is that GTW does permutation of user-agent / language
>> That means if we support 6 languages and 7 user-agents we get 42
>> permutations. Every permutation Is 1.2mb (IIRC) that gives you the big
>> size...
>> 
>> Maybe we can skip some old and obscure useragents?
>> 
>> --
>> tomaz
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jboss-as7-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
>> [mailto:jboss-as7-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Heiko Braun
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:16 AM
>> To: Benjamin Browning
>> Cc: jboss-as7-dev at lists.jboss.org Development
>> Subject: Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Console 1.1.0 Update
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> let me check what's going on. additional languages are one explanation,
>> but there must be something else that doesn't belong here.
>> 
>> 
>> ike
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Browning wrote:
>> 
>>> I brought this up in #jboss-as7 a while back after being baffled at how
>> much larger AS 7.1.1 was than 7.1.0. Apparently it's all GWT permutations
>> or something silly.
>>> 
>>> If we translate the console into a few more languages all the GWT
>>> permutations may soon surpass the size of everything else in the
>>> entire distribution ;)
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Paul Gier wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The 1.1.0 and 1.2.0 versions of the console are a lot larger than the
>>>> previous 1.0.x versions.  Is this expected?
>>>> 
>>>> jboss-as-console-1.0.2.Final-resources.jar ~ 10MB
>>>> jboss-as-console-1.2.0.Final-resources.jar ~ 46MB
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/06/2012 03:22 AM, Heiko Braun wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Notable changes in AS 7.1.1 at a glance:
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Additional Subsystems:/
>>>>> - infinispan
>>>>> - jgroups
>>>>> - modcluster
>>>>> - mail
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Environment Properties:/
>>>>> The ability to view any system property that has been passed to the
>>>>> JVM when the server was started.
>>>>> 
>>>>> /What's next?/
>>>>> In the next iteration we'll focus on accessibility issues (508
>>>>> compliance), remaining translations and missing runtime operations
>> (i.e.
>>>>> modcluster).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to Stan, Pavel and David for their contributions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Heiko
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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