[jboss-as7-dev] Coping with cyclic test dependencies

[Paul Robinson]

No problem,

We're happy with this workaround. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't a better solution, as I'm sure other teams are having the same problem.

Thanks,

Paul

On 20 Sep 2012, at 16:21, Brian Stansberry <brian.stansberry at redhat.com> wrote:

> Sorry, Paul, I didn't respond yesterday. Your workaround sounds reasonable to me.
> 
> I think the arq containers should strive to be forward compatible and if they frequently aren't that's not good. But "strive to be" and "infrequently aren't" don't really cut it for your use case, so you need some sort of solution like the one you propose.
> 
> On 9/20/12 6:59 AM, Paul Robinson wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> We were thinking of just releasing with jboss-as.version set to the SNAPSHOT of the target AS7 release and then overriding this property if/when the tests are ran against the final release, by passing -Djboss-as.version=<final version> to the build command line.
>> 
>> Unless anyone can point out a problem with this approach, or suggest an improvement, we'll just go with that.
>> 
>> Paul.
>> 
>> On 18 Sep 2012, at 09:55, Paul Robinson <paul.robinson at redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Brian,
>>> 
>>> I don't think forwards compatibility can be guaranteed. We've had a few problems in the past where the the jboss-as-arquillian-container-managed dependency was set to a different version of AS7 to that which we were testing against.
>>> 
>>> Here's a specific example: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTM-1243 and https://github.com/jbosstm/quickstart/pull/18/files for the fix. In this example we were using the jboss-javaee-6.0-with-tools bom to get the jboss-as-arquillian-container-managed dependency version. This bom set the version to 7.1.1.Final, which failed to work with 7.2.0.Alpha1-SNAPSHOT. So, in this case we would need to match up the releases.
>>> 
>>> I don't recall the specifics of other occasions, but it's certainly happened to us a few times.
>>> 
>>> Paul.
>>> 
>>> On 17 Sep 2012, at 16:24, Brian Stansberry <brian.stansberry at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does JBossTS need to use the same arquillian container version as is
>>>> included with the latest AS? I'm no Arquillian expert, but it seems like
>>>> if that's required something has gone wrong with our Arquillian
>>>> integration. Seems like the idea would be to make these containers
>>>> forward compatible.
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies if I'm all wet here.
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/17/12 10:12 AM, Paul Robinson wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> JBoss transactions uses Arquillian for some of the project tests.
>>>>> Therefore JBossTS has a dependency on AS7 (for the Arquillian container
>>>>> dependency), but as AS7 consumes JBossTS, the target AS7 version is not
>>>>> available when we do the release of JBossTS. We get around this at the
>>>>> moment by referencing a SNAPSHOT version of AS7 in the Arquillian
>>>>> container dependency. However, this does mean that our release will
>>>>> reference the SNAPSHOT dependency.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This must be a common issue that other projects have. I was wondering
>>>>> what the accepted pattern was to solve this issue?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>> 
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