[jboss-as7-dev] JSF Groovy support in AS8?

[Brian Stansberry]

On 4/10/13 11:27 AM, ssilvert at redhat.com wrote:
> On 4/10/2013 12:02 PM, Brian Stansberry wrote:
>> Data point: 6MB would be a 4.9% increase in download size vs EAP
>> 6.1.0.Alpha1.
>>
>> Does this groovy integration involve any integration code?
> A few lines just to add the module to the deployment unit.  Yes.
>> I assume so
>> (to make the module visible), otherwise users would have to declare
>> module dependencies, which for many may be harder than just packaging
>> the jar.
> Right.  We wouldn't ask them to do that.
>>
>> Do we intend to formally support this over the long run?
> I don't know.  Perhaps it would be better as an unsupported layered product?

Unsupported Add-On features would be one way to deal with things like 
this. IMO we should not be producing unsupported Layered Distributions. 
(See 
https://community.jboss.org/wiki/LayeredDistributionsAndModulePathOrganization 
for the definition of these terms.)

For a feature to work as an add-on, it needs to somehow be integrated. 
Currently that would have to be via an extension/subsystem.

>> If not, any
>> integration will need to be ripped out at the start of productization.
>>
>> On 4/10/13 10:37 AM, ssilvert at redhat.com wrote:
>>> On 4/10/2013 10:26 AM, Jaikiran Pai wrote:
>>>> Resending - this time replying to the list.
>>>>
>>>> Does it have to be a module that we ship? Or would it work if users
>>>> added it as a simple Java EE library to their application
>>>> (.war/WEB-INF/lib for example)?
>>> Adding it to your WAR is something you can do today.
>>>
>>> I'm asking for opinions on shipping it with AS so that JSF apps have
>>> this capability by default.
>>>
>>> I won't really argue either way.  It's trivial to add and very, very
>>> trivial to leave out.
>>>
>>>> -Jaikiran
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 05:56 PM, ssilvert at redhat.com wrote:
>>>>> Mojarra has supported Groovy for quite some time now.  It's kind of neat
>>>>> because you can prototype JSF artifacts with Groovy and achieve dynamic
>>>>> reloading of these artifacts during development.  Here is the original
>>>>> introduction to this feature from way back in 2008.
>>>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/rlubke/entry/groovy_mojarra
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, if you want to use this feature with AS you have to download
>>>>> Groovy and package it with your WAR.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the code already written to add Groovy support to AS8 and it
>>>>> works well.  The only downside is that it introduces a module for
>>>>> groovy-all.jar, which is about 6MB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Stan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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