[jboss-dev-forums] [Design of JBoss ESB] - Re: ESB vs. SOAP community

Kevin.Conner@jboss.com do-not-reply at jboss.com
Tue May 27 10:10:26 EDT 2008


"thomas.diesler at jboss.com" wrote : How as a community member do I verify and contribute to SSO for SOA-P?
I assume that you are referring to the project that has just been started to create this, in which case contributing to the SSO project (or whatever Mike Brock/Anil call it) would be a good move.

"thomas.diesler at jboss.com" wrote : AFAIU, I cannot because it is part of some proprietary build. This is just a simple example, but it can reasonably be expected that the delta between JBossESB and the SOA-P will grow (not every SOA aspect is an ESB concern)
And it is a bad example as the only thing that the current SSO does is configure the normal security access inherent in the app server so that each console uses the same credentials.  Pure jaas, nothing more, in the current SOA-P.

"thomas.diesler at jboss.com" wrote : As things stand now the ESB team would have to deal with all those aspects.
Sorry Thomas, you are reading far too much into this.  The current SSO stuff will be replaced by the new project, that is why it was started in the first place.  What other aspects are you thinking about?

"thomas.diesler at jboss.com" wrote : Also it concerns me that calls to test-drive the SOA-P are being ignored because folks don't care about some proprietary build that is not available to the community.
Which is, of course, not true.  They can 'test-drive' it through the projects and their integration with AS.  We certainly have a lot of people 'test-driving' the ESB integration.

"thomas.diesler at jboss.com" wrote : More positively, the call to test drive the next SOA-P release should of course reach the entire community.
Our community does help to test drive the ESB integration, I'm sure the WS one does the same on behalf of WS/EAP.

"thomas.diesler at jboss.com" wrote : Finally one should not forget that EAP is successful because a large community had access to JBossAS. The same obviously applies to SOA-P
Sorry, are you suggesting that SOA-P is failing?

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