[jboss-dev-forums] [Tomcat Integration Development] New message: "Re: Deployment of on-demand web applications"

[Stan Silvert]

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A new message was posted in the thread "Deployment of on-demand web applications":

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Author  : Stan Silvert
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> mailto:stansberry at jboss.com wrote:
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> Re: the general approach to slimming -- on-demand vs. just keeping stuff out of profiles...
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> That's really the core discussion. I like the on-demand approach, and felt like actually coding after 1.5 months of mostly discussing, so I went for it.  But if another general solution is better, that's what we should do.
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> Stan, the thing I don't like about the multiple config approach is it somewhat mixes apples and oranges -- whether I want something included in the initial boot of the server vs whether I want it at all are two slightly different things.
That's true, they are slightly different.  But let's don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.  I have to agree with Bill on this one.  Doing on-demand adds complexity to the system and uses up valuable development time.
>  For example, 
> 1) I'm developing with the "cluster" profile. Now I have to wait 18 seconds on every boot for the admin-console. Ugh. (Believe me, I'm very conscious of the added boot time from the current "all profile.  )
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> 2) I'm developing with the "development" profile. But now I want to look at the jmx-console or admin-console. I have to switch profiles or create a custom profile to get that. Ugh.
To solve #1, we would just need "clustered development" and "clustered produciton" profiles.
 
For #2, I don't think developers typically use the admin console.  (Maybe I'm wrong?)  JMX console should be enough for development and testing.
 
We'll never please everyone with our pre-defined profiles.  But we can make profiles that please most users most of the time.

My other point is that we need to do the development and production profiles anyway.  Other projects are going to that model and we'll be left behind if we don't address the development vs. production issue head on.  So why not kill two birds with one stone and move on to other things?

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