[jboss-dev] jbossall-client.jar now references external libs

[Paul Gier]

The pom is here: https://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/trunk/client/

Galder Zamarreno wrote:
> Hmmm, strange because I built trunk on Friday and I see no .pom 
> whatsoever in the client/ directory. Am I missing something?
> 
> Paul Gier wrote:
>> It's in the client directory.  And it's in the maven snapshot repository:
>> http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2/org/jboss/jbossas/jboss-as-client/5.0.0-SNAPSHOT/ 
>>
>>
>> Galder Zamarreno wrote:
>>> Where is this client pom?
>>>
>>> Paul Gier wrote:
>>>> I added a new client pom if anyone wants to try it.  There are still 
>>>> some things I need to work out, because a few of the jars were not 
>>>> available in the maven repo and it's including a lot of trasitive 
>>>> jars that probably need to be excluded.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Gier wrote:
>>>>> Since there seems to be a lot of demand for this, I'm going to 
>>>>> create a new directory in the app server called "client".  And this 
>>>>> will contain a pom that lists all the jars that are currently in 
>>>>> the all-client jar manifest.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will be deployed to our repository with the release, so it 
>>>>> should be usable from maven or ivy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>> This is what should be done; have a proper managed repository of jars
>>>>>> that is usable from both Maven and Ivy. Then *a lot* of issues from a
>>>>>> tooling perspective would be way easier to solve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we produced a proper jbossall-client artifact in the maven
>>>>>>> repository, i.e. one that specified all its dependencies (the other
>>>>>>> client jars).
>>>>>>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/org/jboss/client/jbossall-client/5.0.0.Beta4/jbossall-client-5.0.0.Beta4.pom 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOTE: The one above comes from before the change to use the 
>>>>>>> manifest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least people using maven could create their .classpath correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another option would be to include a dummy eclipse project
>>>>>>> in the distribution that people could import into their project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 10:28 -0600, David M. Lloyd wrote:
>>>>>>>> Are there mechanisms which Eclipse *will* read?  Like OSGi 
>>>>>>>> descriptors or
>>>>>>>> something like that?  Do we have an Eclipse plugin for
>>>>>>>> jboss-classloading.xml support yet? :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - DML
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/06/2008 09:56 AM, Sacha Labourey wrote:
>>>>>>>> > I agree, this will be a big usability issue. For the sake of 
>>>>>>>> making OUR life
>>>>>>>> > easier (patching), we are going to make EVERYBODY's life more 
>>>>>>>> difficult,
>>>>>>>> > that's nonsense. If you need a patching mechanism, write a 
>>>>>>>> script which will
>>>>>>>> > just do that, but do not impact user usability.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> >> From: jboss-development-bounces at lists.jboss.org [mailto:jboss-
>>>>>>>> >> development-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Galder 
>>>>>>>> Zamarreno
>>>>>>>> >> Sent: jeudi, 6 novembre 2008 16:48
>>>>>>>> >> To: JBoss.org development list
>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [jboss-dev] jbossall-client.jar now references 
>>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>> >> libs
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Hmmmm, we're gonna have users screaming about this.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> In the past, if you're developing a client app in Eclipse, 
>>>>>>>> you only
>>>>>>>> >> needed jbossall-client.jar and log4j.jar but this won't be 
>>>>>>>> the case
>>>>>>>> >> with
>>>>>>>> >> AS5 as I've just found out when trying to run a client app 
>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>> >> trunk. Eclipse for example does not read manifest classpath 
>>>>>>>> entries:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> http://forums.bea.com/thread.jspa?threadID=570001075
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I've just talked to Max who confirmed it. I'll let him 
>>>>>>>> explain the gory
>>>>>>>> >> details of Eclipse.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>> Yes, they'll need the whole jboss/client dir.
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>> I'm curious how this affects users (and hence tooling).
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> I assume users now instead of having jbossall-client.jar on 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>> classpath will need to have an exact
>>>>>>>> >>>> copy of client/*.jar etc. when running against jboss ?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> /max
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Paul changed jbossall-client.jar so now instead of 
>>>>>>>> embedding the
>>>>>>>> >>>>> content of the other client
>>>>>>>> >>>>> libraries, it now references them through MANIFEST.MF 
>>>>>>>> Class-Path
>>>>>>>> >> entry.
>>>>>>>> >>>>> This makes it possible to introduce drop-in replacements 
>>>>>>>> for client
>>>>>>>> >>>>> libs, if needed, without
>>>>>>>> >>>>> worrying about jbossall-client.jar
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-4355
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